[Noisebridge-discuss] State of the dirty workshop

[Jake]

bump

i agree with everything you said.  I think that sometimes, shops or work 
areas get "cleaned up" or "organized" by people who don't know what those 
areas are for and while some might say it's better than leaving it a mess, 
i disagree.

I think it basically comes down to people who don't have anything to do, 
and are at noisebridge for the wrong reasons, decide to get involved.  And 
i would like to also blame them for the missing tools but i'm sure entropy 
has a lot to do with it.

We should make a shopping list of missing tools and parts (you just 
started one) and keep it in a wiki.  We can put a sign on the wall in the 
shop linking people to that list, so they can check to see if what they're 
looking for is on the "missing" list or not before wasting time searching 
for it.

and i'm in agreement that we should consider infrastructure for non-public 
tool storage with shareable access credentials (combo lock) so that we Can 
Have Nice Things.

Although i would prefer to systematically improve the ratio of 
anti-entropic people to entropic people who spend time at noisebridge.

-jake

Jim wrote:

     Now that I've tried to work in it, the feeling
is that it was organized by someone who didn't
know about tools.
* The hammers are in a drawer labeled "wrenches",
   which should be re-labeled "wrenches, hammers,
   pounders, garden tools, and vacuum cleaner parts".
* There are no #1 or #2 or #3 philips screwdrivers.
   There are a couple of >3 philips screwdrivers.
* Best I can see there are no chuck keys for any
   of the (remaining, low-quality) electric drills.
* There are probably a lot of drill bits in there,
   but I haven't found them.
* hacksaws have no blades.

     I think the model of having useful, good tools
available for anyone who saunters in to do stuff
is proven failed.
     I like the model of a few heavy, hard-to-move
power tools along with some cheap, manual hand tools.
     I also like the model of sub-communities, groups
of a few people with shared interests that can lock
their good tools in some lockable bin that is theirs
and sits in the dirty shop. Or in some other place,
not a member shelf.