[Noisebridge-discuss] A test of Excellence

[jim]

    If each of us tries to be more aware of others, 
that might intensify our community intelligence. 


On Tue, 2013-01-15 at 15:16 -0800, D J Capelis wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 2:45 PM, Dean Mao <dean.mao at hackerdojo.com>
> wrote:
>         Hm perhaps it's just issues with SF.  NB seems to have a much
>         bigger theft issue that we at the Hacker Dojo have.  I
>         remember seeing an email a few weeks ago about some guy named
>         "eric" who stole someone's laptop.  
>         
>         
>         I bet if NB moved to a less seedy area, the thefts wouldn't be
>         as rampant.
> 
> NYC Resistor has no trouble having nice things around and they're in
> NYC.  The differences between NYC resistor and Noisebridge are huge,
> but I'd guess the difference has a lot more to do with culture than
> with location.  (They're also not an open-access space, which is
> definitely a huge cultural difference.)
> 
> Just saying "oh hey maybe it's just the location" is a convenient way
> to pretend that brokenness isn't broken, IMO.  And really saying that
> anything is "only reason" for stuff like this is a pretty aggressive
> attempt at demolishing nuance.
> 
> Of course broken is all in the eye of the beholder.  If folks are okay
> with a hackerspace that can't be used to hack on anything that
> requires nice things (in this case, we're not even talking nice things
> like real equipment, some of which actually manages to stay around,
> but nice things like... power drills or even being able to expect to
> find a hammer in a deterministic location when you need one) then you
> know, maybe noisebridge doesn't have any problems.  I've been trying
> to figure out how noisebridge could fit into my life and benefit my
> hacking, but I've been struggling to figure out how a space where
> keeping a power drill around is regarded as a risky move fits into
> things.
> 
> My tentative conclusion so far is that it doesn't.  (For that and a
> few other reasons.)  Which seems a huge shame.  And full disclosure:
> maybe I'm a little bitter about it.
> 
> But thanks to Martin for taking time and expending effort and energy
> to give the conversation some data.  Whether or not the data is
> perfect or whether or not the methodology is perfect (neither of them
> are, but neither of those things are ever perfect) is irrelevant to
> the fact that there's now a bit more actual data than there was before
> he posted these results.  I hope the community takes the opportunity
> to think about it all for awhile.
> 
> ~DJ
> 
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