[Noisebridge-discuss] A test of Excellence
jim
jim at systemateka.com
Thu Jan 17 18:28:10 UTC 2013
I like that the space is open to everyone. I like
that the people are willing to accept anyone.
To some degree, theft can be addressed by not having
desirable and easily stealable equipment. Lean toward
hand tools rather than motor-driven hand tools. Get
cheap motor-driven hand tools. Get a lockbox for
expensive or dangerous motor-driven hand tools. Bolt
heavy tools to workbench surfaces (chopsaw, drill press,
table saw...).
Think of the space as a bus station. Leave any of
your things around the space just as you would leave
those things in a bus station: if you've got trusted
pals who'll watch your stuff, great. If not, take your
stuff with you to the bathroom or taqueria.... Or
maybe bring a lockbox of your own, something that's
too big and heavy to steal easily.
Talk to people you normally don't talk to. Be
curious about them and their interests. Don't assume
they're thieves, assume they have interests or knowledge
that you'll like knowing about if you can dig it out.
If there's a codekey at the top of the stairs, who
will tell me the code? (Think of "me" as anybody you
don't know but who comes to use the space appropriately.)
Will someone change the code? How will the rest of us
learn it? How to manage the use case that someone asks
someone for the code so's to let someone in?
Having a camera facing up the stairs strikes me
as a possibly good idea. Trouble is, if it only works
in real time (no image capture), it's of quite limited
value; if it captures images, does it do so by sensing
changes or one capture per time period (each second)
or some other scheme? Given captured images, who has
access to them and for how long do the images remain
captured?
On Wed, 2013-01-16 at 21:34 -0800, J.C. wrote:
> I think your overlooking a number of things, first of least you are
> talking about noisebridge, and a couple of other random "private"
> places. Noisebridge operates on a different philosophy imho that it in
> particular it is a public place, so I suggest you try your study by
> leaving such items on various sidewalks, or lobbys and see what the
> result is.
>
>
> Yes nb is in the middle of the mission, some of it also consider it
> home. Yes a lot of shit gets stolen in the mission, correction nearly
> everything in mission gets stolen, sometimes it's cell phones,
> sometimes it's million dollar homes stolen by massive bullshit
> financial crashes.
>
>
> Ok, end of rant, if you think leaving something unattended in a public
> place, with just contact info on it, means you'll ever see it again,
> well good luck with that.
>
>
> If you think that's something that should be part of an excellent
> public hackerspace such at noisebridge, I'd love to see you help make
> it so.
>
>
>
>
> P.S. Public/Group storage spaces.
>
>
>
>
> ;+)
>
>
> On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 12:37 PM, Martin Bogomolni
> <martinbogo at gmail.com> wrote:
> The Excellence Study is now over. Here are the results:
>
> >From October to January, five items were left in three spaces
> (
> Noisebridge, Dallas Makerspace, UCSC ). The items were:
>
> *) A Casascius BitCoin, seal intact, in a small transparent
> envelope
> labeled with a name, contact info, Do Not Hack
> *) A 9.6V power screwdriver, with philips and slot-head bits,
> in a
> case clearly labeled with a name and contact #
> *) A box of assorted IC chips and parts from Make:
> "Electronics
> Components Pack #2", in a case, clearly labeled with a name
> and
> contact #
> *) An Android phone, Samsung Galaxy S, loaded with
> CyanogenMod, with a
> laser-etched name and contact on the back
> *) A "DefCon 19" jacket, with a contact name inside the jacket
> in sharpie
>
> Dallas Makerspace)
>
> *) BitCoin - contact # notified, returned 11/1
> *) Screwdriver was boxed, placed on "lost and found" area
> 10/20,
> contact # called 10/24, returned 11/1
> *) Make Components pack was placed on "lost and found" area
> 10/20,
> contact # called 10/24, returned 11/1
> *) Android phone was stolen 10/28, recovered after contact on
> 11/5 by
> Dallas area pawn shop.
> *) DefCon Jacket was placed in "lost and found" 11/15,
> contact email
> used 11/22, returned 12/21
>
> UC Santa Cruz)
>
> *) BitCoin went missing 11/9, re-appeared 12/8, placed in lost
> and found box
> *) Screwdriver, Make Component Pack, were placed in a box
> labeled with
> the name on the case, and retrieved 1/14/2013
> *) Android Phone, Jacket were placed in a box labeled with the
> name in
> the jacket, and retrieved 1/14/2013
>
> NoiseBridge )
>
> *) BitCoin was stolen on 10/14, BTC transferred on 10/15
> *) Screwdriver and case was stolen on 10/18
> *) Make Component Pack was opened on 10/24, some components
> scattered
> into the electronics area and moved to member shelf area,
> mostly empty
> case went missing from member shelf area 11/3
> *) Android phone was stolen 10/15, pre-paid SIM was used all
> over the
> bay area (mostly Berkeley) until 11/9, phone recovered from
> BART
> police on 1/8 smashed/damaged
> *) DefCon Jacket was stolen 10/18
>
> Draw your own conclusions. The experiment was interesting,
> but it
> definitely points to some culture issues.
>
> -M
>
> On Sat, Oct 13, 2012 at 9:08 AM, Martin Bogomolni
> <martinbogo at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Any good experiment needs a hypothesis, and a way of testing
> that
> > hypothesis with an experiment and a control.
> >
> > My hypothesis is that the operating principles of
> Noisebridge are not
> > serving to increase, but rather to decrease, the average
> level of
> > honesty and 'Excellence' in the space. Specifically the
> current way
> > things are set up socially inside of Noisebridge, with
> insufficient
> > negative feedback/pressure on people to reinforce the social
> values
> > that promote that kind of honest behavior.
> >
> > I have had two people leave five valuable things in
> Noisebridge.
> > These things are useful to different people for different
> reasons.
> >
> > Five identical items have been left at the Dallas
> Makerspace, as a
> > second social group with different rules. Also at UC Santa
> Cruz'
> > workshop as a control, as they have a strongly reinforced
> discipline
> > of object ownership and storage.
> >
> > All are items a Hacker/Maker would have.
> >
> > One of them contains something intrinsically valuable if
> disassembled.
> > It will cease to work if that happens.
> >
> > All are clearly labeled as 'do not hack', with a name and
> identifying
> > label for which member shelf they should be on.
> >
> > All have been placed in logical places, but not on a
> material or
> > 'hack' shelf. None are in their 'correct' location.
> >
> > None are worth less than $50.
> >
> > None of those labels has my name on it.
> >
> > The location of the items will be checked after a day, a
> week, two
> > weeks, a month, and two months.
> >
> > I will publish the results after three months.
> >
> > -M
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