[Noisebridge-discuss] Noisebridge-discuss Digest, Vol 63, Issue 17

[jim]

    Consider the possibility of a three-person group: 
as a matter of convention, people agree that of the 
people who are already in the space, three should be 
willing to take on the role of monitor. When a monitor 
is sick of doing so, the monitor asks someone else to 
take over. 
    In my view, this is best done informally, without 
the sturm and drang of a meeting discussion, but as 
an experiment, doocratically taken on, to see if the 
idea has merit. 
    Issues for monitors might include: 
* keep an eye on toilet rooms for supplies and for 
  people shooting up or otherwise dangerous activities. 
* keep an eye on places that have equipment that can 
  be stolen. 
* keep an eye on misuse of equipment. 
* keep an eye on disruptive behavior, maybe on symptoms 
  of sickness or other trouble. 

   ...just sayin'...


On Thu, 2013-01-17 at 08:21 -0800, Danny O'Brien wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 06:47:07AM -0800, Johny Radio wrote:
> > Jake wrote:
> > 
> > > am planning to install a two-way audio system
> > 
> > How's that different than the working intercom we have now?
> > 
> >  I used it today to ask someone to identify themselves. They responded simply "I'm here". Sometimes legit users don't want to ID themselves. 
> > 
> > With all this talk of tighter entry controls, I have to ask how would I gain entry in such a scenario, if it existed 2 years ago when I started coming? I don't even remember anymore how I heard about Noisebridge, but I was what a lone maker who came in off the street. 
> > 
> > Answer: Noisebridge should continue, even expand, ways that any legit person can enter without pain or red tape. Eg Mitch should keep handing out keys to people at conferences, cuz they are pre-vetted. 
> > 
> 
> Well, there's two ideas here: the idea of being able to see who the hell
> is coming up, and getting people to both take responsibility for who
> they let in. 
> 
> Our problem so far has been that no matter how much we fix the first
> thing, we haven't really had much buy-in for the second. And even when
> people do take responsibility, they feel the only thing they have to go
> on is what people look like, which a) isn't a great way to do this, and
> b) makes them feel guilty and uncomfortable. But the second idea, of
> responsibility, depends strongly on being able to see who wants to come
> up, because as soon as somebody is in the space, it's *really* hard to
> be brave enough to chase them out.
> 
> I think that good training on how to be responsible door-opener, which
> includes making clear that there's a strong obligation to let people in,
> and not just determine things from an idea of "sketchiness" or just
> refuse to let new people in, will make sure that we don't just not let
> the next Johny Radio in. (Not that I'm saying you look sketchy, Johny!)
> 
> A couple of other thoughts: I really like the idea of the
> number-wielders as a useful intermediary between Random Noisebridge
> Visitor and member. And I think that we are probably going to need a
> list of pictures of people who need to come to meeting rather than being
> let in. We don't have many of these, but we do have them, and I think
> that it would help to encourage people to default to letting people in
> if they have a list of people they shouldn't.
> 
> d.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> > I suggest a verbal password that can be given out in the same way. Such a password could even be printed in regional academic or other publications, cuz again it's a pre-vetted readership. I also suggest an email address on the wiki to enable lone makers (who are not part of any pre-vetted institution or publication readership) to request a password, which would generally always be granted to anyone who seems sincere. 
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