[Noisebridge-discuss] Noisebridge-discuss Digest, Vol 63, Issue 17

Danny O'Brien danny at spesh.com
Thu Jan 17 16:21:03 UTC 2013


On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 06:47:07AM -0800, Johny Radio wrote:
> Jake wrote:
> 
> > am planning to install a two-way audio system
> 
> How's that different than the working intercom we have now?
> 
>  I used it today to ask someone to identify themselves. They responded simply "I'm here". Sometimes legit users don't want to ID themselves. 
> 
> With all this talk of tighter entry controls, I have to ask how would I gain entry in such a scenario, if it existed 2 years ago when I started coming? I don't even remember anymore how I heard about Noisebridge, but I was what a lone maker who came in off the street. 
> 
> Answer: Noisebridge should continue, even expand, ways that any legit person can enter without pain or red tape. Eg Mitch should keep handing out keys to people at conferences, cuz they are pre-vetted. 
> 

Well, there's two ideas here: the idea of being able to see who the hell
is coming up, and getting people to both take responsibility for who
they let in. 

Our problem so far has been that no matter how much we fix the first
thing, we haven't really had much buy-in for the second. And even when
people do take responsibility, they feel the only thing they have to go
on is what people look like, which a) isn't a great way to do this, and
b) makes them feel guilty and uncomfortable. But the second idea, of
responsibility, depends strongly on being able to see who wants to come
up, because as soon as somebody is in the space, it's *really* hard to
be brave enough to chase them out.

I think that good training on how to be responsible door-opener, which
includes making clear that there's a strong obligation to let people in,
and not just determine things from an idea of "sketchiness" or just
refuse to let new people in, will make sure that we don't just not let
the next Johny Radio in. (Not that I'm saying you look sketchy, Johny!)

A couple of other thoughts: I really like the idea of the
number-wielders as a useful intermediary between Random Noisebridge
Visitor and member. And I think that we are probably going to need a
list of pictures of people who need to come to meeting rather than being
let in. We don't have many of these, but we do have them, and I think
that it would help to encourage people to default to letting people in
if they have a list of people they shouldn't.

d.





> I suggest a verbal password that can be given out in the same way. Such a password could even be printed in regional academic or other publications, cuz again it's a pre-vetted readership. I also suggest an email address on the wiki to enable lone makers (who are not part of any pre-vetted institution or publication readership) to request a password, which would generally always be granted to anyone who seems sincere. 
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