[Noisebridge-discuss] so i am writing this letter to dreamworks

[Andrew Byrne]

It is my perception that without clear license, they won't use it, and
that's pretty much that. Keep in mind we are not asking a "them"; this
decision will go by their legal team, whom we are asking to accept the
goodwill of hackers as the certainty that they won't later be sued.

-Dru


On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 2:11 AM, Liz Henry <liz at bookmaniac.org> wrote:

> J.C.:
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> Fucking brilliant.
>
> Love,
>
> - liz
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> On 1/27/13 12:27 AM, J.C. wrote:
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>> Here's a really rough comp of an idea, I think it would look more
>> interesting superimposing a picture of the nb logo mosaic on the kitchen
>> counter for the moon, just don't have a good shot of that handy.
>>
>> https://www.noisebridge.net/**images/7/7b/Nb-dream-pee.jpg<https://www.noisebridge.net/images/7/7b/Nb-dream-pee.jpg>
>>
>>
>> ;+)
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>> On Sun, Jan 27, 2013 at 12:17 AM, Tony Longshanks LeTigre <
>> anthonyletigre at gmail.com> wrote:
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>>  I can do it by later tonight (say 4am?) if no one else does first.
>>>
>>> I was present at the last meeting & heard your planned response to them
>>> BTW. Bravo, brill!
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Jan 26, 2013 at 11:14 PM, Danny O'Brien <danny at spesh.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>  ... who asked us for permission to use the Noisebridge logo in their
>>>> Wikileaks movie. The consensus is that we should write to them to
>>>> explain that in a sane world, they wouldn't need to ask permission to
>>>> use a logo when conducting free speech discussions of such matters --
>>>> that nominative fair use should work to cover any such usage, as long
>>>> as they don't suggest that Noisebridge is paying for the movie, or
>>>> endorses it. But sadly, some industries (hem hem) pursue a crazy
>>>> maximalist intellectual property model that believes that you can't
>>>> even use simple words and symbols without some elaborate licensing
>>>> regime, and that simple conversations can be wiped out and censored in
>>>> the interests of pursuing a bizarro version of an outdated system of
>>>> copyright control.  So, we're not going to give them permission,
>>>> because we believe that they don't need it, and the only reason we
>>>> would sue them is that if we were ethically bankrupt greedy fools. So
>>>> really whether they use the symbol is down to their own vision of what
>>>> they themselves think their fellow humans are like. If they think that
>>>> the world is simply full of people who pursue goals for money and
>>>> selfish motives, they should probably not use the Noisebridge logo. If
>>>> they think hackers might be actually an ethical bunch of people who
>>>> would not compromise their ideals simply to make a buck, they should
>>>> go ahead and use it.
>>>>
>>>> Anyway, I will edit that down at some point, but in the meantime --
>>>> would somebody like to photoshop incorporate the noisebridge logo as
>>>> the moon in the Dreamworks logo? It would allow me to explain how
>>>> logos might be used, using fair use, as part of an ongoing
>>>> conversation. (Incorporating the peeing unicorn is an optional extra).
>>>>
>>>> d.
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