[Noisebridge-discuss] so i am writing this letter to dreamworks

[Ari Lacenski]

Perhaps we should outline the circumstances under which we'd sue them.
I vote for no more Star Wars movies ever^W with CG characters.

Ari

On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 10:14 AM, Andrew Byrne <andrew at pachakutech.com> wrote:
> It is my perception that without clear license, they won't use it, and
> that's pretty much that. Keep in mind we are not asking a "them"; this
> decision will go by their legal team, whom we are asking to accept the
> goodwill of hackers as the certainty that they won't later be sued.
>
> -Dru
>
>
> On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 2:11 AM, Liz Henry <liz at bookmaniac.org> wrote:
>>
>> J.C.:
>>
>> Fucking brilliant.
>>
>> Love,
>>
>> - liz
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 1/27/13 12:27 AM, J.C. wrote:
>>>
>>> Here's a really rough comp of an idea, I think it would look more
>>> interesting superimposing a picture of the nb logo mosaic on the kitchen
>>> counter for the moon, just don't have a good shot of that handy.
>>>
>>> https://www.noisebridge.net/images/7/7b/Nb-dream-pee.jpg
>>>
>>>
>>> ;+)
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Jan 27, 2013 at 12:17 AM, Tony Longshanks LeTigre <
>>> anthonyletigre at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I can do it by later tonight (say 4am?) if no one else does first.
>>>>
>>>> I was present at the last meeting & heard your planned response to them
>>>> BTW. Bravo, brill!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Jan 26, 2013 at 11:14 PM, Danny O'Brien <danny at spesh.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> ... who asked us for permission to use the Noisebridge logo in their
>>>>> Wikileaks movie. The consensus is that we should write to them to
>>>>> explain that in a sane world, they wouldn't need to ask permission to
>>>>> use a logo when conducting free speech discussions of such matters --
>>>>> that nominative fair use should work to cover any such usage, as long
>>>>> as they don't suggest that Noisebridge is paying for the movie, or
>>>>> endorses it. But sadly, some industries (hem hem) pursue a crazy
>>>>> maximalist intellectual property model that believes that you can't
>>>>> even use simple words and symbols without some elaborate licensing
>>>>> regime, and that simple conversations can be wiped out and censored in
>>>>> the interests of pursuing a bizarro version of an outdated system of
>>>>> copyright control.  So, we're not going to give them permission,
>>>>> because we believe that they don't need it, and the only reason we
>>>>> would sue them is that if we were ethically bankrupt greedy fools. So
>>>>> really whether they use the symbol is down to their own vision of what
>>>>> they themselves think their fellow humans are like. If they think that
>>>>> the world is simply full of people who pursue goals for money and
>>>>> selfish motives, they should probably not use the Noisebridge logo. If
>>>>> they think hackers might be actually an ethical bunch of people who
>>>>> would not compromise their ideals simply to make a buck, they should
>>>>> go ahead and use it.
>>>>>
>>>>> Anyway, I will edit that down at some point, but in the meantime --
>>>>> would somebody like to photoshop incorporate the noisebridge logo as
>>>>> the moon in the Dreamworks logo? It would allow me to explain how
>>>>> logos might be used, using fair use, as part of an ongoing
>>>>> conversation. (Incorporating the peeing unicorn is an optional extra).
>>>>>
>>>>> d.
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