[Noisebridge-discuss] When were bunk-beds installed?

[Michael Clift]

Hey guys, I do NOT like that NB has become a dump. That is not what I
meant, and once again a statement is taken out of context in order to
weaponize the statement. I like the napping bays, I thought it quite
progressive when I "came back" to NB after being gone for 6 months...I was
excited by the prospect of doing dream/neuro research at NB, as I am a
lucid dreamer and one of my freinds is into bio feedback and all that sort
of thing,was going to bring her equipment to NB for such study, but the
Dream Team never quite emerged, and YES the Hacker Stacker was misused/co
opted by whoever.
I do think NB should be able to adapt to shifting patterns, and your main
problem is essentially territorial in nature, and facist in terms of
problem solving. (in this particular instance, not to mention the whole
invasion of the Barbarians thing...."Who ARE you people?" Danny,
incredulously....well we are the people who have done alot of shit for,to
and because of NB..hacking: it's not just for computers anymore.)
That being said, I always had the time of my life over there, and I got
alot of work done, made alot of friends and contacts, and harbor no illwill
towards anyone there. The scope of my life overshadows all petty concerns
related to identity politics and basic localism, so I carry on, and I do
hope when I come back to NB oneday to go into an opensource,kick ass place
where all are welcome,but not all should stay, and that things be handled a
little bit more tactfully and reasonable when it has been determined by
more than one or two Chicken Littles that somebody is not welcome, or
banished for life for being nothing but themselves and standing up for
their friends...
P.MIKE
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On Fri, Jul 5, 2013 at 9:44 AM, Naomi Most <pnaomi at gmail.com> wrote:

> Thanks for recapitulating the last year of NB discuss.  I'm sure it
> was useful for others who are new or haven't been to NB in a while.
>
> Come to the Reboot meetings.  Tada, you are nominated.
>
> --Naomi
>
> On Thu, Jul 4, 2013 at 7:18 PM, Eric W. Rasmussen <ewr at majortek.com>
> wrote:
> > I understand the concept but this is absolutely absurd. It's like adding
> > fuel to a fire with the hope that the house will burn faster. The "pods"
> > completely dominate the space once reserved for 3D printing and Laser
> > cutting and now users of the space are required to monitor the sleeping
> > habits of others.
> >
> > Whenever there is a problem, there are three fundamental ways of solving
> it:
> >
> > 1. Ignore it and hope it goes away
> > 2. Fix the problem by using logic and physical effort
> > 3. Throw money at it
> >
> > However, with every solution arises new problems. What one needs to ask
> is,
> > "Is the new problem greater or less than the previous problem"? If less,
> > then it's probably a good solution. Let's use the overall messiness of
> the
> > space as an example. We can:
> >
> > 1. Ignore it and hope it cleans itself
> > 2. Clean it
> > 3. Hire someone to clean it
> >
> > #1 isn't going to happen, obviously. #2 requires that people gather for a
> > concerted effort. #3 would work but NB is continually living
> hand-to-mouth.
> > #2 seems like the best solution.
> >
> > I don't know the answer to homelessness but I am fairly certain that NB
> is
> > not the place for a solution. When was the last time you saw a house in
> the
> > middle of an office complex?
> >
> > I am being very honest when I state that I was embarrassed. This topic
> needs
> > to be discussed again. If not the outcome will be:
> >
> > #1. People will ignore NB and it will go away.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On 07/04/2013 05:49 PM, Dana wrote:
> >>
> >> Maybe this is as a topic for a future Rebase meeting? There might be
> some
> >> benefit to discussing sleeping and uses of the space very late night /
> >> early morning (in addition to ongoing conversations about access and the
> >> kitchen).
> >>
> >> I like the harm reduction thinking behind the hacker stackers, but I'm
> not
> >> sure they're working as intended. I think the space may have more
> sleepers
> >> now, a culture of "don't sleep at noisebridge" has become a bit more
> >> ambiguous.
> >>
> >> - D
> >>
> >>
> >>
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