[Noisebridge-discuss] Homeless in NB

[Jake]

I don't believe they kicked you out of a coffee shop because they saw your 
bicycles had lots of stuff on them.

If you don't bathe and clean your clothes as often as the majority of 
people in a culture, or subculture, you will smell more strongly than 
them.  If it bothers them they don't have to let you hang out in their 
store.  If you are homeless and choose to bathe more, i can't think of a 
city with more homeless services than SF so take some responsibility for 
yourself.

you are choosing to live this way.  thats fine, i'm not spitting on you, 
you're spitting on the right of other people not to want to hang out with 
you.  You still haven't explained how it's not a choice you're making to 
be homeless.  Even in SF, it's possible to get a job and a room of your 
own with running water to bathe in, and clean your clothes if you care.

for you to compare your life choices to the oppression felt by black 
americans in even the past 50 years is ridiculous, and just saying that is 
going to get you the opposite of sympathy from this crowd.

-jake

On Sat, 6 Jul 2013, Danny Dismal wrote:

> Umm they can see out the window at our bikes and gear which is a little more than your
> average bike tourist. It wasn't even in the coffee shop. All we had was our laptops and the
> coffee we ordered no more or less than most of the other customers. And where do you get off
> saying we choose to live this way. You think it's okay to spit on and look down at a class
> of people by justifying why they are there as if you knew. Just like the racist know that
> all those black men are bad right?
> 
> 
> On Sat, Jul 6, 2013 at 12:44 AM, Jake <jake at spaz.org> wrote:
>       Really?  thrown out of a coffee shop just because you're homeless?
>
>       HOW DID THEY KNOW?  they must have read your mind.
>
>       If they could tell you're homeless maybe it's because something about you was
>       disrupting the place from doing what it was meant to do.  For example, if people
>       are in a place to enjoy food and coffee and someone smells really bad, that
>       person might be asked to leave rather than everyone else stop enjoying their
>       meals and being disgusted.
>
>       If a cafe was trying to provide space for people to socialize and work on their
>       laptops or whatever, and someone has all their property spread out all around
>       them and is taking up too much space, they might be asked to leave.  Especially
>       if they're not participating in buying anything (which is how they pay the rent
>       on the place).
>
>       For you to compare your "suffering" to that of african americans of the 19th
>       century is obscene.  You need to quit whining and get some perspective.  I am
>       assuming you are a healthy young person who could easily get a job and afford an
>       apartment.  You could also find a home by squatting, which takes a bit of WORK
>       if you want it to last a while.
>
>       If you choose (and it is a choice) not to do these things, own up to the
>       consequences and accept that other people the right to not support you if they
>       don't want to.
>
>       And if you want to use the N-word that way you can get the FUCK off our mailing
>       list and go do it somewhere else.
>
>       -jake
>
>       Danny Dismal wrote:
>
>       I was just thinking to myself after getting thrown out of a coffee shop for no
>       other reason than I'm homeless...
>       I thought just what that meant and how it reflected on our history in this
>       nation and realized one thing and I do mean it is really happening.
>       The homeless are the new Niggers of the 21st Century. We are scorned and
>       pushed out. People walk across the street to avoid us and we are constantly
>       being asked to move, wake up and getting robbed, beaten and in some cases
>       killed where no one bothers to find out why.
>       Now's the time to look at your feelings on this and ask yourself "how do
>       the homeless make you feel"?
> 
> 
> 
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