[Noisebridge-discuss] CopCards

[Darius Garza]

I would save these as pdf's rather than jpgs. Photoshop isn't ideal for
text formatting either, but it gets the job done.

d.


On Sun, Jul 7, 2013 at 10:14 PM, Leif Ryge <leif at synthesize.us> wrote:

> On Sun, Jul 07, 2013 at 09:30:47PM -0700, Sai wrote:
> > On Sun, Jul 7, 2013 at 7:37 PM, Leif Ryge <leif at synthesize.us> wrote:
> > > The "reminder" card says "Stay silent! Say nothing except whats on the
> > > prompt card, or just point to it. Give them your license, insurance, &
> > > registration if driving."
> > >
> > > I am also not a lawyer, but this seems like bad advice. Are you sure
> > > automobile drivers aren't required to say more than is on your prompt
> > > card?
> >
> > To the best of my knowledge, the only increased requirement for a
> > driver is to show license, registration, and insurance. You don't have
> > to say a damn thing, since you just gave them ID. You do have to get
> > out of the car if asked and otherwise comply with lawful orders.
> >
> > If you disagree, please give an example of something not on the card
> > that someone would need to *say* (as opposed to *do*).
>
> Here is one example: In the state of Washington (and probably other
> states) you have to tell the officer who owns the car you're driving:
> http://apps.leg.wa.gov/RCW/default.aspx?cite=46.61.020
> via
> http://blog.seattlepi.com/seattle911/2009/03/03/what-are-you-legally-required-to-do-during-a-traffic-stop-2/
> via searching "traffic stop" "right to remain silent", which has some
> other interesting hits.
>
> > > Also, it would be nice if you had the text available in a form other
> > > than a photoshop document, and if you had the source documents in
> > > version control. (Why not use SVG or something else standard?)
> >
> > I just made a simple export; the PSDs are the original. I could put
> > 'em up in .txt form I guess?
> >
> > I could put it into my github if you want, though I don't much see the
> > point of that to be honest.
>
> I think it would be useful to see how the text evolves. It would also
> make it easier for others to suggest changes (eg, pull requests).
>
> ~leif
>
> >
> > - Sai
> >
> > On Sun, Jul 7, 2013 at 7:37 PM, Leif Ryge <leif at synthesize.us> wrote:
> > > On Sun, Jul 07, 2013 at 07:17:41PM -0700, Josh Juran wrote:
> > >> On Jul 7, 2013, at 11:46 AM, Sai wrote:
> > >>
> > >> >Recently, I designed CopCards: basically, a pair of credit card sized
> > >> >cards that concisely remind you of your rights with police and prompt
> > >> >you for what to say when interacting with them if you want to
> preserve
> > >> >those rights.
> > >> >
> > >> >They're available at http://s.ai/copcards.
> > >>
> > >> http://s.ai/copcards/
> > >>
> > >> Nice.  Wouldn't PNG make more sense than JPG for non-photos?
> > >>
> > >> Josh
> > >
> > > The "reminder" card says "Stay silent! Say nothing except whats on the
> > > prompt card, or just point to it. Give them your license, insurance, &
> > > registration if driving."
> > >
> > > I am also not a lawyer, but this seems like bad advice. Are you sure
> > > automobile drivers aren't required to say more than is on your prompt
> > > card?
> > >
> > > Also, it would be nice if you had the text available in a form other
> > > than a photoshop document, and if you had the source documents in
> > > version control. (Why not use SVG or something else standard?)
> > >
> > > ~leif
>
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