[Noisebridge-discuss] Ask The Food Hackers

[Adrian Chadd]

Hi,

Assuming "food hackers" can design a kitchen is like asking a chef to
design a kitchen. You know, and know about things like drainage, fire
safety, electrical safety, correct loading and support for things that have
to hold weight, making sure oven/grill doors open up in a safe way and
aren't blocked by tables, what materials to select in order to minimise
cleaning requirements and stay sterile (eg using chipboard? *slap*) etc,
etc. You know, all the stuff that doesn't involve actual _cooking_.

That's why a well designed kitchen doesn't just get built by an architect
who cares about how it looks, nor a chef who cares about his work, nor a
structural engineer who cares about how things hold together. It's going to
be a collaboration between people, and/or driven by someone who knows about
(say) cooking and the practical side of building things. And then it gets
verified by some kind of engineer/architect who says "yes, we can actually
make this in a way that won't catch fire or fall apart."

So, I'm all for having food hackers provide input. But don't just blindly
assume that because 'x' is using it, 'x' should design it. That's got all
kinds of 'fallacy' written all over it.

2c, keep it real,



-adrian


On 26 July 2013 14:17, Johny Radio <johnyradio at gmail.com> wrote:

>  Dan Cote terminationshok at gmail.com , Fri Jul 26 01:55:40 UTC 2013:
> "This kitchen cannot be restored to healthy status without demolition of
> the island."
>
> --that's absurd. Try CLEANING. Lest we blame homeless people, plenty of
> hackers i've known are total slobs.
>
>
> "people are hating on food hackers."
>
> --they are? Dan, please give an example of that.
>
>
> "expect any infrastructure I contribute towards to be on the theme of
> *sci-fi kitchen 4004+ of the **future*. It will not look like
> any kitchen existing in the world at this time, unless you are watching a
> sci-fi movie. It will contain novel technologies"
>
> --Food hackers need a kitchen that works, not a
> maybe-the-solar-stove-won't-blow-up-or-fall-apart-this-time hacked
> experiment. Oops, somebody hacked the fridge again. Oh, there's a piece of
> the oven in the ewaste bin. Food hacking means hacking food, not hacking
> the stove. By analogy, if you want to invent a new drill press, great, but
> don't install your hacked together drill press in the woodshop until it's
> thoroughly tested and ready for real use by people who need a drillpress
> that works and is safe. Meantime, you don't throw out the one that actually
> works.
>
> --If you're not a food hacker, Dan, then please let actual food hackers
> take the lead on a redesign. Their needs are who the kitchen should serve.
> Food hackers (if they haven't all been scared off by non-hackers dominating
> the kitchen every day) should take the lead on these kitchen decisions.
>
> --Jarrod, was any attempt made to empower food hackers to take the lead on
> kitchen decisions?
>
>
> Johny Radio
>
> Stick It In Your Ear!
>
>
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