[Noisebridge-discuss] happy feminist film night: Hayao Miyazaki?

hep dis at gruntle.org
Sun Jul 28 03:37:38 UTC 2013


Oh it's not invalid, just HIGHLY disrespect to brush off the concerns of
someone of an oppressed group trying to defend their own group. i mean hey,
why would a woman be touchy about some guy telling her she isn't doing
feminism right tho, right?

-hep


On Sat, Jul 27, 2013 at 8:22 PM, macegr <garrettmace at gmail.com> wrote:

> ...followed up by the "labeling a type of argument means the argument is
> invalid" argument. :)
>
>
> On Jul 27, 2013, at 8:14 PM, hep <dis at gruntle.org> wrote:
>
> wow, the tone argument to complete this episode of noisebridge privilege
> bingo.
>
> -hep
>
>
> On Sat, Jul 27, 2013 at 8:10 PM, macegr <garrettmace at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> The only definition I challenged was whether a man could consider
>> themselves feminist. There's anything but consensus on whether being a
>> feminist requires a specific configuration of organs, but I believe that a
>> man can want the same things, and that feminism is an idea rather than an
>> accident of genetics. I'm not even claiming that I'm a feminist, though I
>> often identify with their thinking. What Lupita might be on guard against
>> is a sick form of sexism where men purport to be feminists but actually
>> want to gain female approval through white-knighting the movement,
>> attempting to make women dependent on their protection.
>>
>> But, to be entirely honest...I felt Lupita's phrasing was not what
>> someone would use to reprimand someone and draw them to their point of
>> view, but was constructed purely to ignite controversy. Therefore I thought
>> I was feeding a few breadcrumbs to an obvious troll, which might change
>> your opinion of how reasonable I actually am.
>>
>>
>>
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