[Noisebridge-discuss] Anarchist? Libertarian?

[Rachel McConnell]

As one of the founding members, I can say that I am not an anarchist and anarchy was never one of the goals of Noisebridge. The goal was only ever to be an awesome hackerspace. You can describe it as anarchistic if you feel it fits (anyone can describe it however they like) but do not think that means everyone, or the organization in general, will agree with the label. And NEVER believe Noisebridge will conform to your idea of what an anarchist organization should be or do just because you label it so.

-Rachel1.0

On Jul 31, 2013, at 7:33 AM, "j. grenzfurthner/monochrom (das ende der nahrungskette)" <jg at monochrom.at> wrote:

> Never forget...
> http://monochrom.at/blog/gallery/1/monochrom--neverforget.png
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> At 15:20 31.07.2013, you wrote:
>> Snail snailtsunami at gmail.com, Tue Jul 30 21:40:27 UTC 2013
>> >I checked out the wiki & couldn't get any results on "core wiki pages" with words like anarchist
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>> Snail, I believe Danny was questioning the "Libertarian" label, not "Anarchist".
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>> While i cannot yet track down the page containing "Libertarian" (which surprised me too), I would be pretty shocked to discover that Noisebridge is not considered Anarchist, at least unofficially, and very much so.
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>> Noisebridge founder Mitch Altman has used the term "anarchy" on-list to describe how NB operates: "Anarchy will take care of it". Danny O'Brien has been heard at meetings complaining "some people don't understand how Anarchy works". A google search for the terms 'noisebridge anarchist' turns up 9,000 results. NB has no rules and no rulers.
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>> In his essay, "Is Noisebridge Anarchist?", Danny O'Brien penned:
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>> "The founders were anarchist... many of Noisebridge's constitutional elements -- notably, Consensus, and the largely non-privileged position of members...arose from a strong belief that Noisebridge should look to recent anarchist-with-a-capital-A-and-a-big-circle traditions in institution-building ...That's why we don't have leaders... hacker culture is distinctly anti-authoritarian... self-empowerment, radical decentralization, and at least some intent to disintegrate the bonds of power ...deeply buried tendrils that connect free software/free speech/free thinking hackers with the WTO-fighting, direct action Zapatistas... Noisebridge's own inbuilt cultural reticence to let itself be defined is part of that very congeniality to anarchist process.... there is a point of commonality, rather than contrast, with the anarchist project."
>> <http://zine.noisebridge.net/zip/ch3/zx0095%C6%92_web>http://zine.noisebridge.net/zip/ch3/zx0095%C6%92_web
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>> i hope this does not spark a debate which i imagine NB has already been through. Danny argues convincingly that NB leans heavily toward Anarchy. If we lack the official label, it's only because we're so darned anarchistic.
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