[Noisebridge-discuss] Noisebridge-discuss Digest, Vol 69, Issue 30

Wed Jul 31 17:56:03 UTC 2013

For anyone who was duped by the 'i'm captain reasonable' tone in the wildly
problematic email from Some Other Guy Named Tom.... I'll just leave this
here:

>From wikipedia on feminism:
A feminist advocates or supports the rights and equality of women.

>From wikipedia on patriarchy:
Patriarchy (rule by fathers) is a social system in which the male is the
primary authority figure central to social organization and the central
roles of political leadership, moral authority, and control of property...
It implies the institutions of male rule and privilege, and entails female
subordination.

>From me:
It would appear that Mr. Tom has noticed the patriarchy, and is
rudimentarily aware that it is bad for him too. For example, like many
men-within-patriarchy, he is blind to the ways in which his focus on
himself (within a conversation that was explicitly not about him) and his
own beliefs (presented as fact) is making him come across as a total
douchenozzle - kinda useless for healthy people, and actually promoting the
growth of bacteria in the wrong places.

Yeah, I think as a feminist I have reclaimed the word douche.

R.
 On Jul 31, 2013 2:03 AM, "Alexandra Glowaski" <alex.glowaski at gmail.com>
wrote:

> True... a sci-fi movie with a legendary badass female protagonist mightn't
> be our best choice for a bunch of nerdy women.
>
> How about "Feminism is Magic"? (You know, that thing of where they take My
> Little Pony films and overdub them with Gertrude Stein)
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 8:46 PM, Thomas <tom7879 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>  To Romy,
>>
>> Happy Feminist Night is a fantastic idea. Please go ahead and create it
>> at Noisebridge! I'll help if I can.
>>
>> Remember that Noisebridge is a do-ocracy, so you can just do it, or get
>> friends to help you do it. You don't need anyone's permission. Of course,
>> you might check the main page (noisebridge.net) and look at the weekly
>> class/event offerings there. You could use it to choose the best time and
>> NB place for it. I'd go for sure!
>>
>> "Alien" is scarier than it is feminist, and might not bring a
>> pro-feminist audience. Lots of Sci-Fi people, though.
>>
>> A lot of very important feminist writers say men can be feminists,
>> including bell hooks. The best definition I saw in the thread, said
>> "feminism is about women's liberation." The key word here is "liberation,"
>> which all of us can aspire to.
>>
>> Patriarchy injures everybody, including men. It brutalizes us and coerces
>> us into machista roles that severely limit our choices. Men, of course, do
>> receive *some* benefits from patriarchy - but working men, men of color,
>> and gay men are constantly victimized by it in ways most of them can't even
>> see.
>>
>> A socio-economic analysis reveals that most men are oppressed under
>> capitalism. Patriarchy, racism, police brutality all contribute to that
>> oppression, and none of them exclude men from the damage done by these
>> phenomena. Women are indeed the special victims of patriarchy, but they are
>> not the only ones.
>>
>> This is not to give more weight to mens' victimization than to that of
>> women. It is merely to state that which is: both men and women are
>> oppressed. If men are willing and able to contribute to the feminist
>> project of liberation than they should be free to do so.
>>
>> I know several men who identify as feminists. I don't wish to contradict
>> them or argue with their beliefs. Granted, they might identify as other
>> things, too, like gender-questioning. But men have a stake in liberation as
>> surely as women do. So for those men among us who choose to contribute to
>> the feminist project, and who call ourselves feminists, let us remember
>> that we are doing much more than merely “affirming patriarchy,” when we
>> strive to break the chains. We are actually helping everyone to advance to
>> freedom.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>>    1. Re: later hours vs. morning hours (Danny Dismal)
>>    2. Thanks, Rebase (Johny Radio)
>>    3. Re: happy feminist film night: Hayao Miyazaki?
>>       (rachel lyra hospodar)
>>    4. Re: happy feminist film night: Hayao Miyazaki? (macegr)
>>    5. Re: Circuit hacking Monday, anyone on deck? (Alex Buie)
>>    6. Re: Circuit hacking Monday, anyone on deck? (J.C.)
>>    7. Docent Shifts (Shannon Lee)
>>    8. Re: happy feminist film night: Hayao Miyazaki?
>>       (rachel lyra hospodar)
>>    9. Re: happy feminist film night: Hayao Miyazaki?
>>       (rachel lyra hospodar)
>>   10. Re: happy feminist film night: Hayao Miyazaki? (Adrian Chadd)
>>   11. Re: happy feminist film night: Hayao Miyazaki? (hep)
>>   12. Re: happy feminist film night: Hayao Miyazaki?
>>       (rachel lyra hospodar)
>>   13. Re: later hours vs. morning hours (Dan Cote)
>>   14. Re: en guard noisebridge! freespace is ending (Rachel McConnell)
>>   15. Gate INOP (J.C.)
>>   16. HELLO IM BRANDON AADEE (Brandon Aadee)
>>   17. Re: happy feminist film night: Hayao Miyazaki? (Lupita Berries)
>>   18. Re: en guard noisebridge! freespace is ending (Snail)
>>   19. Re: HELLO IM BRANDON AADEE (Tony Arcieri)
>>   20. Re: HELLO IM BRANDON AADEE (Tony Arcieri)
>>   21. Re: HELLO IM BRANDON AADEE (Jake)
>>   22. Re: Gate INOP (Jake)
>>   23. Re: en guard noisebridge! freespace is ending (Bryon Roche)
>>   24. Re: HELLO IM BRANDON AADEE (Liz Henry)
>>   25. Re: en guard noisebridge! freespace is ending (Liz Henry)
>>   26. Re: en guard noisebridge! freespace is ending (Jonathan Lassoff)
>>   27. Re: en guard noisebridge! freespace is ending (Adrian Chadd)
>>   28. Re: en guard noisebridge! freespace is ending (Jonathan Lassoff)
>>   29. Re: en guard noisebridge! freespace is ending (Peter Kaminski)
>>   30. Re: en guard noisebridge! freespace is ending (Rachel McConnell)
>>   31. Re: en guard noisebridge! freespace is ending (Jake)
>>   32. large format printer (Jeffery Mercentuar)
>>   33. Helping Non-Hackers (Johny Radio)
>>   34.  HELLO IM BRANDON AADEE (Johny Radio)
>>   35. Re: Gate INOP (J.C.)
>>   36. Re: Gate INOP (Jake)
>>   37. Internet & gate broke (J.C.)
>>   38. Re: Internet & gate broke (J.C.)
>>   39. Re: HELLO IM BRANDON AADEE (Alexandra Glowaski)
>>   40. Re: HELLO IM BRANDON AADEE (Andy Isaacson)
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