[Noisebridge-discuss] Noisebridge-discuss Digest, Vol 69, Issue 30

Wed Jul 31 17:59:55 UTC 2013

I am very supportive of reclaiming the word douche.

Douche is a very appropriate word to use in this context.

On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 10:56 AM, rachel lyra hospodar
<rachelyra at gmail.com>wrote:

> For anyone who was duped by the 'i'm captain reasonable' tone in the
> wildly problematic email from Some Other Guy Named Tom.... I'll just leave
> this here:
>
> From wikipedia on feminism:
> A feminist advocates or supports the rights and equality of women.
>
> From wikipedia on patriarchy:
> Patriarchy (rule by fathers) is a social system in which the male is the
> primary authority figure central to social organization and the central
> roles of political leadership, moral authority, and control of property...
> It implies the institutions of male rule and privilege, and entails female
> subordination.
>
> From me:
> It would appear that Mr. Tom has noticed the patriarchy, and is
> rudimentarily aware that it is bad for him too. For example, like many
> men-within-patriarchy, he is blind to the ways in which his focus on
> himself (within a conversation that was explicitly not about him) and his
> own beliefs (presented as fact) is making him come across as a total
> douchenozzle - kinda useless for healthy people, and actually promoting the
> growth of bacteria in the wrong places.
>
> Yeah, I think as a feminist I have reclaimed the word douche.
>
> R.
>  On Jul 31, 2013 2:03 AM, "Alexandra Glowaski" <alex.glowaski at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> True... a sci-fi movie with a legendary badass female protagonist
>> mightn't be our best choice for a bunch of nerdy women.
>>
>> How about "Feminism is Magic"? (You know, that thing of where they take
>> My Little Pony films and overdub them with Gertrude Stein)
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 8:46 PM, Thomas <tom7879 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>  To Romy,
>>>
>>> Happy Feminist Night is a fantastic idea. Please go ahead and create it
>>> at Noisebridge! I'll help if I can.
>>>
>>> Remember that Noisebridge is a do-ocracy, so you can just do it, or get
>>> friends to help you do it. You don't need anyone's permission. Of course,
>>> you might check the main page (noisebridge.net) and look at the weekly
>>> class/event offerings there. You could use it to choose the best time and
>>> NB place for it. I'd go for sure!
>>>
>>> "Alien" is scarier than it is feminist, and might not bring a
>>> pro-feminist audience. Lots of Sci-Fi people, though.
>>>
>>> A lot of very important feminist writers say men can be feminists,
>>> including bell hooks. The best definition I saw in the thread, said
>>> "feminism is about women's liberation." The key word here is "liberation,"
>>> which all of us can aspire to.
>>>
>>> Patriarchy injures everybody, including men. It brutalizes us and
>>> coerces us into machista roles that severely limit our choices. Men, of
>>> course, do receive *some* benefits from patriarchy - but working men,
>>> men of color, and gay men are constantly victimized by it in ways most of
>>> them can't even see.
>>>
>>> A socio-economic analysis reveals that most men are oppressed under
>>> capitalism. Patriarchy, racism, police brutality all contribute to that
>>> oppression, and none of them exclude men from the damage done by these
>>> phenomena. Women are indeed the special victims of patriarchy, but they are
>>> not the only ones.
>>>
>>> This is not to give more weight to mens' victimization than to that of
>>> women. It is merely to state that which is: both men and women are
>>> oppressed. If men are willing and able to contribute to the feminist
>>> project of liberation than they should be free to do so.
>>>
>>> I know several men who identify as feminists. I don't wish to contradict
>>> them or argue with their beliefs. Granted, they might identify as other
>>> things, too, like gender-questioning. But men have a stake in liberation as
>>> surely as women do. So for those men among us who choose to contribute to
>>> the feminist project, and who call ourselves feminists, let us remember
>>> that we are doing much more than merely “affirming patriarchy,” when we
>>> strive to break the chains. We are actually helping everyone to advance to
>>> freedom.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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