[Noisebridge-discuss] oogles at noisebridge

[Jake]

No i didnt get any pictures, because when i thought of it (after they were 
dragging their feet despite me and mitch BOTH being really heavy about 
them leaving) I said "i am going to take a picture now for our records and 
they ACTUALLY left immediately then, so i didn't get one.

But i did get a picture of Vince, who was an extreme problem a couple of 
times and yet barely got mentioned on the discuss list as "vince was asked 
to leave".  I was disappointed that none of the ten people arguing him out 
the door for 20 minutes was willing to write anything up about it.

I would like to think that scud and chrissy got the message and won't come 
back, although i'm sure the cashbox is very tempting to a lot of people. 
Certainly if i see them in the space again I will tell them that they need 
to leave "immediately or i'm calling the police" and I will tell them that 
if they come in again, i "will call the police before even warning you" so 
that should be enough.

I agree that it's tiring the way noisebridge has decayed socially.  I 
blame a lack of willingness on the part of most noisebridge "leadership" 
to take the problem seriously, in favor of an overappreciation of chaos.

I attribute this divide to lack of understanding by software people (those 
who mostly use their laptops and rarely use other tools) of the very real 
and crippling effects of entropy of the space by non-hackers.  Software 
people can clear off a space on a table and open their laptop and get to 
work.  The chaos around them is ambiance, and they don't know how many of 
the tools are missing or destroyed, or how many of the soldering irons are 
actually usable.  They don't see how many of the multimeters actually 
work, and they don't understand that people can't leave projects on their 
member shelves overnight because they get prowled regularly for crack 
money.

As for Scud and Chrissy i think they were doing what was good for them - 
getting as much as they could from noisebridge before they were cut off. 
I guess I would do the same thing if i were them.  Their choice.

The complaint I have is with people who are in a position to improve 
noisebridge, for example by embracing a new era of access control, but are 
not willing to do it because they don't see a problem.

-jake

On Wed, 29 May 2013, (      ) wrote:

> Hey, did you get any pictures of Scud and Chrissy when they were asked to
> leave, so we can post them on the 86 page?
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> I like the idea of NB so much and to have something in the city, but the
> constant stream of Oogles / "Occupy" there is really wearing on me!
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