[Noisebridge-discuss] oogles at noisebridge

[Andrew Byrne]

Derp, here's the repost with apologies to Jake wrt the repost
On May 29, 2013 1:54 PM, "Andrew Byrne" <andrew at pachakutech.com> wrote:

> Great point about us programmers; we do like avoiding
> confrontation/exogenous stimuli. One niggling point: I think Rev Mik and
> others wrote plenty about Vincent after we forced him out the door, but did
> not call him by name.  This was the guy we all handled about two weeks ago,
> right? The pic you have is of him just realizing he's being snapped on the
> stairwell? I think those who were attending to this list can back me up on
> this.
>
> Or this could be someone else...
>
> The two junkies in question look like junkies: the opioid-agonized
> histamine response is similar to but distinguishable from the huffer's
> muzzle by the redness appearing all over the face, the acne replaced by
> sores, and a general inflammation of the dermis that does an uncanny
> stand-in for body fat lost to malnutrition i.e. they wouldn't look out of
> place in an ER recovering from a chronic, wasting cold. They are both short
> brown haired Caucasians, he with short hair, she with medium. His affect is
> intense--positive or negative--and hers very subdued. They wear similar
> dark brown and black clothing--very "SF occupy"--and clearly have physical
> ailments they do not care for.
>
> Both are actually pleasant and people to talk to, though I doubt they take
> being asked to leave the nb shooting gallery well.
>
> Best
> -dru
> On May 29, 2013 1:18 PM, "Jake" <jake at spaz.org> wrote:
>
>> No i didnt get any pictures, because when i thought of it (after they
>> were dragging their feet despite me and mitch BOTH being really heavy about
>> them leaving) I said "i am going to take a picture now for our records and
>> they ACTUALLY left immediately then, so i didn't get one.
>>
>> But i did get a picture of Vince, who was an extreme problem a couple of
>> times and yet barely got mentioned on the discuss list as "vince was asked
>> to leave".  I was disappointed that none of the ten people arguing him out
>> the door for 20 minutes was willing to write anything up about it.
>>
>> I would like to think that scud and chrissy got the message and won't
>> come back, although i'm sure the cashbox is very tempting to a lot of
>> people. Certainly if i see them in the space again I will tell them that
>> they need to leave "immediately or i'm calling the police" and I will tell
>> them that if they come in again, i "will call the police before even
>> warning you" so that should be enough.
>>
>> I agree that it's tiring the way noisebridge has decayed socially.  I
>> blame a lack of willingness on the part of most noisebridge "leadership" to
>> take the problem seriously, in favor of an overappreciation of chaos.
>>
>> I attribute this divide to lack of understanding by software people
>> (those who mostly use their laptops and rarely use other tools) of the very
>> real and crippling effects of entropy of the space by non-hackers.
>>  Software people can clear off a space on a table and open their laptop and
>> get to work.  The chaos around them is ambiance, and they don't know how
>> many of the tools are missing or destroyed, or how many of the soldering
>> irons are actually usable.  They don't see how many of the multimeters
>> actually work, and they don't understand that people can't leave projects
>> on their member shelves overnight because they get prowled regularly for
>> crack money.
>>
>> As for Scud and Chrissy i think they were doing what was good for them -
>> getting as much as they could from noisebridge before they were cut off. I
>> guess I would do the same thing if i were them.  Their choice.
>>
>> The complaint I have is with people who are in a position to improve
>> noisebridge, for example by embracing a new era of access control, but are
>> not willing to do it because they don't see a problem.
>>
>> -jake
>>
>> On Wed, 29 May 2013, (      ) wrote:
>>
>>  Hey, did you get any pictures of Scud and Chrissy when they were asked to
>>> leave, so we can post them on the 86 page?
>>>
>>> I like the idea of NB so much and to have something in the city, but the
>>> constant stream of Oogles / "Occupy" there is really wearing on me!
>>>
>>>
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