[Noisebridge-discuss] ?How not to crash at noisebridge

[Darius Garza]

I knew it! There is more than one rule at noisebridge. Seemed too good to
be true. I suppose one could argue that not violating the lease falls under
being excellent however.

d.


On Fri, May 10, 2013 at 12:33 PM, Ronald Cotoni <setient at gmail.com> wrote:

> Even if it is as you say, it is against the lease to break city ordinances.
>  The space is not zoned appropriately for sleeping.  You are right.  I
> misread it.  Sorry for being unexcellent :(
>
>
> On Fri, May 10, 2013 at 12:10 PM, John Ellis <neurofog at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Ronald,
>>
>> Have you actually read the lease? It doesn't actually mention sleeping
>> per se.
>>
>> It is against the lease to violate city ordinances. There is a ordinance
>> against using the space (or any commercial property, except hotels) as a
>> residence, and there is also an ordinance regarding using it as a hotel,
>> without licensing and meeting certain requirements. Noisebridge space is
>> leased with the intention of using it as a hacker space.
>>
>> The NB community has decided that it is un-excellent to sleep overnight
>> in the space. That is separate from the lease requirements. Please don't
>> confuse the two.
>>
>> More importantly, I don't think Christoph intended to crash inside the
>> space, only to ask the community for assistance in finding accommodation
>> while attending Maker Faire.
>>
>> Cheers!
>> John
>>
>> On Fri, May 10, 2013 at 12:00 PM, Ronald Cotoni <setient at gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> It is against our lease to sleep at noisebridge.  End of story.   It is
>>> not excellent to do so.   If you want noisebridge to exist at it's current
>>> location and not get kicked out, which would make it hard for us to find
>>> another space, I would suggest being "Excellent" and not sleeping there,
>>> ever.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, May 10, 2013 at 11:28 AM, LinkReincarnate <
>>> linkreincarnate at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I think that noisebrige is making progress on that front.  We've come a
>>>> long way from telling people to GTFO for sleeping.  We are giving and inch
>>>> don't take a mile.
>>>> On May 10, 2013 11:14 AM, "Martin Bogomolni" <martinbogo at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> It's not a "war on sleep"
>>>>>
>>>>> It _is_ us paying attention to our lease, and the restrictions our
>>>>> landlord has put in the lease for the space.  Specifically, the one
>>>>> that says that we cannot use the space as a place to live.
>>>>>
>>>>> Noisebridge is _not_:
>>>>>
>>>>> * a place to live
>>>>> * a dispensary
>>>>> * a restaurant (there are some darned strict rules about that)
>>>>> * a crashspace/hostel/hotel
>>>>>
>>>>> So -- taking naps?  Well, things have evolved from "NO NAPPING" to "We
>>>>> have a place you can take a short (read 20-30 minute) nap."
>>>>>
>>>>> Sleeping overnight at the space?  Making it a home?  Using it as your
>>>>> address?  No.  Not allowed.
>>>>>
>>>>> -M
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