[Noisebridge-discuss] ?How not to crash at noisebridge

[Ronald Cotoni]

Even if it is as you say, it is against the lease to break city ordinances.
 The space is not zoned appropriately for sleeping.  You are right.  I
misread it.  Sorry for being unexcellent :(


On Fri, May 10, 2013 at 12:10 PM, John Ellis <neurofog at gmail.com> wrote:

> Ronald,
>
> Have you actually read the lease? It doesn't actually mention sleeping per
> se.
>
> It is against the lease to violate city ordinances. There is a ordinance
> against using the space (or any commercial property, except hotels) as a
> residence, and there is also an ordinance regarding using it as a hotel,
> without licensing and meeting certain requirements. Noisebridge space is
> leased with the intention of using it as a hacker space.
>
> The NB community has decided that it is un-excellent to sleep overnight in
> the space. That is separate from the lease requirements. Please don't
> confuse the two.
>
> More importantly, I don't think Christoph intended to crash inside the
> space, only to ask the community for assistance in finding accommodation
> while attending Maker Faire.
>
> Cheers!
> John
>
> On Fri, May 10, 2013 at 12:00 PM, Ronald Cotoni <setient at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> It is against our lease to sleep at noisebridge.  End of story.   It is
>> not excellent to do so.   If you want noisebridge to exist at it's current
>> location and not get kicked out, which would make it hard for us to find
>> another space, I would suggest being "Excellent" and not sleeping there,
>> ever.
>>
>>
>> On Fri, May 10, 2013 at 11:28 AM, LinkReincarnate <
>> linkreincarnate at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I think that noisebrige is making progress on that front.  We've come a
>>> long way from telling people to GTFO for sleeping.  We are giving and inch
>>> don't take a mile.
>>> On May 10, 2013 11:14 AM, "Martin Bogomolni" <martinbogo at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> It's not a "war on sleep"
>>>>
>>>> It _is_ us paying attention to our lease, and the restrictions our
>>>> landlord has put in the lease for the space.  Specifically, the one
>>>> that says that we cannot use the space as a place to live.
>>>>
>>>> Noisebridge is _not_:
>>>>
>>>> * a place to live
>>>> * a dispensary
>>>> * a restaurant (there are some darned strict rules about that)
>>>> * a crashspace/hostel/hotel
>>>>
>>>> So -- taking naps?  Well, things have evolved from "NO NAPPING" to "We
>>>> have a place you can take a short (read 20-30 minute) nap."
>>>>
>>>> Sleeping overnight at the space?  Making it a home?  Using it as your
>>>> address?  No.  Not allowed.
>>>>
>>>> -M
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>>
>> --
>> Ronald Cotoni
>> Systems Engineer
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Ronald Cotoni
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