[Noisebridge-discuss] anti-anonymity proposals
Snail
snailtsunami at gmail.com
Sat Nov 16 07:23:43 UTC 2013
But if we don't continue this on-list, who will fuel
https://twitter.com/noisebridge_txt ???
[note: I still do not know who runs noisebridge_txt - I suspect it is
someone who doesn't actively write to the list]
I can consider the conversation finished, however, if you would prefer.
On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 11:15 PM, jim <jim at systemateka.com> wrote:
>
> JS: replies interspersed
> also, I'm replying directly to you, not
> to burden the list further.
>
>
> On Fri, 2013-11-15 at 22:51 -0800, Snail wrote:
> > I'll be honest that I cannot really pay attention to what you're
> > writing because every time I start reading all I hear is, "HUU-MAN
> > FEE-MALES!"
> JS; that's what you're hearing. You're not
> hearing me in that respect.
>
> > [What's the point in even BRINGING UP Ferengi if you aren't familiar
> > with the famous misogynistic culture of the Ferengi in TNG/Star Trek,
> > who exclusively refer to their women as "females"? Seriously, now I am
> > sad. :(]
> JS: I have my reasons and you haven't asked
> and likely don't care. I'm not familiar with
> misogynistic cultures and do not to become
> so. Don't think that I am mysogyistic: you
> don't know me at all.
> >
> > www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=Z4gtPUP5H6o#t=93
> JS: I suspect this is unpleasant. I won't
> watch it (I don't watch youtube stuff
> anyway).
>
> > I also still think it's bullshit to NOT have a formal method of
> > helping people with cases of harassment or assault in the interest of
> > "helping them find their inner strength",
> JS: I think there are dangers to formality,
> as I've written. Certainly we should help
> others who have problems. Why do you not
> acknowledge this aspect of my writing?
>
> > just because you believe that maybe sometimes we're too harsh on
> > people who stalk/harass/assault others.
> JS: I think this has been the case.
>
> > I think the gent you claimed was asking too many people on dates or
> > however lightly you put it is one of the two STALKERS we've ejected,
> > and if you can't TELL the difference
> JS: I do not have enough facts. I suspect that
> you (and others who participated) are correct.
> I refuse to judge without knowing facts;
> one of my problems with the formalities of
> community is the sublime pressures that prod
> one to "go along to get along".
>
> > or see a problem with that then I agree with Rachel that you should
> > hire someone to help you grok "what the fuck".
> JS: I no longer believe that you're open to
> my point of view; I think you want to see
> me as <fill_in_your_preferred_word>.
> I'll reply to anything you write to me.
>
> >
> > On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 10:40 PM, jim <jim at systemateka.com> wrote:
> >
> > That may be the case for you; not for me. I
> > stand by my claim that Ceren's email was
> > antagonistic and insulting.
> >
> > I stand by my dislike that anyone would turn
> > too quickly to the community for formal support.
> > My meaning is that anyone should try, at
> > least, to deal with things with one's self and
> > one's friends and to apply to people in the
> > vicinity to help deal. That seems healthy and
> > potentially strengthening.
> > That's my point of view and I do not see how
> > it's insulting or unsupportive.
> > If you disagree, fine.
> >
> > You haven't answered my question whether you
> > are trolling me.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Fri, 2013-11-15 at 22:22 -0800, Snail wrote:
> > > No one is fooled, Jim. We're all pretty sure this wasn't
> > Ceren who
> > > instigated a slew of e-mails saying that JIM's ideas have,
> > to be
> > > polite, slipped the surly bonds of earth. You yourself can
> > only be
> > > blamed for the responses against you, and you're just making
> > yourself
> > > look worse for lashing out at this person like they are to
> > blame for
> > > things you wrote yourself.
> > >
> > > Anyway, we're all pretty sure here that the unpleasant turn
> > - or
> > > lulzical dance - actually began with
> > >
> > > On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 11:13 AM, jim <jim at systemateka.com>
> > wrote:
> > > > As to females being harassed, for cases of
> > > > crude coppings of feels, I dislike taht female
> > > > turning to the community for support
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > -Snailssnailssnailssnailssnailssnailssnails
> > > ............. _ at y
> > > http://obamaischeckingyouremail.tumblr.com/
> > >
> >
> > > _______________________________________________
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> > >
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> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > -Snailssnailssnailssnailssnailssnailssnails
> > ............. _ at y
> > http://obamaischeckingyouremail.tumblr.com/
> >
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 10:40 PM, jim <jim at systemateka.com> wrote:
> >
> > That may be the case for you; not for me. I
> > stand by my claim that Ceren's email was
> > antagonistic and insulting.
> >
> > I stand by my dislike that anyone would turn
> > too quickly to the community for formal support.
> > My meaning is that anyone should try, at
> > least, to deal with things with one's self and
> > one's friends and to apply to people in the
> > vicinity to help deal. That seems healthy and
> > potentially strengthening.
> > That's my point of view and I do not see how
> > it's insulting or unsupportive.
> > If you disagree, fine.
> >
> > You haven't answered my question whether you
> > are trolling me.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Fri, 2013-11-15 at 22:22 -0800, Snail wrote:
> > > No one is fooled, Jim. We're all pretty sure this wasn't
> > Ceren who
> > > instigated a slew of e-mails saying that JIM's ideas have,
> > to be
> > > polite, slipped the surly bonds of earth. You yourself can
> > only be
> > > blamed for the responses against you, and you're just making
> > yourself
> > > look worse for lashing out at this person like they are to
> > blame for
> > > things you wrote yourself.
> > >
> > > Anyway, we're all pretty sure here that the unpleasant turn
> > - or
> > > lulzical dance - actually began with
> > >
> > > On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 11:13 AM, jim <jim at systemateka.com>
> > wrote:
> > > > As to females being harassed, for cases of
> > > > crude coppings of feels, I dislike taht female
> > > > turning to the community for support
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > -Snailssnailssnailssnailssnailssnailssnails
> > > ............. _ at y
> > > http://obamaischeckingyouremail.tumblr.com/
> > >
> >
> > > _______________________________________________
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> > > Noisebridge-discuss at lists.noisebridge.net
> > >
> > https://www.noisebridge.net/mailman/listinfo/noisebridge-discuss
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > -Snailssnailssnailssnailssnailssnailssnails
> > ............. _ at y
> > http://obamaischeckingyouremail.tumblr.com/
> >
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> > Noisebridge-discuss mailing list
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> > https://www.noisebridge.net/mailman/listinfo/noisebridge-discuss
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............. _ at y
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