[Noisebridge-discuss] The Nuclear Option

[Lee Sonko]

Thanks very much Danny!

Lee



On Sun, Nov 24, 2013 at 7:45 PM, Danny O'Brien <danny at spesh.com> wrote:

> I made Lee back to being an admin, presuming that he won't just go
> crazy or something.
>
> If he goes crazy, somebody call me. Presumably the craziness will
> extend to fixing the wrong typo and we will have to punish him with
> Madame La Guillotine
>
>
>
> On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 9:18 AM, Lee Sonko <lee at lee.org> wrote:
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 8:14 AM, Al Sweigart <asweigart at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> You're right, Lee. You made the large changes first, followed by the
> >> smaller changes. I had it backwards.
> >>
> > Thank you.
> >
> >
> >>
> >> Regardless, "Do not edit this page." is and has always been at the very
> >> first line of the page.
> >
> >
> > Hmm. Sorry about that. I saw Tom's edit here and (incorrectly) thought
> that
> > he had added the "Do not edit this page..." text on November 12th. I now
> see
> > that the text has been there for a long time.
> >
> >>
> >> And your second change includes, albeit small, wording changes in
> addition
> >> to the typo corrections. "If you wish to modify it, you should bring up
> your
> >> desired changes at a weekly meeting."
> >>
> >
> > Let me reiterate:
> > - Doocracy
> > - Be Bold
> > - Trustworthy
> > - Tom removed my wiki rights after I did exactly what he suggested I do
> > - No one has reverted my changes (because, presumably they are fine)
> > - I would appreciate it if you restored my bureaucrat and administrator
> > rights on the wiki.
> >
> > Lee
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 7:44 AM, Lee Sonko <lee at lee.org> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Let me try responding to Tom's email a different way. Tom wrote:
> >>> ---- Start of Snippet ----
> >>> You edited the membership page, adding incorrect information, ignoring
> >>> the notice that the page should only be edited as the result of a
> >>> consensus discussion. When I rolled back your changes and asked you to
> >>> stop, you admitted that you weren't at the consensus discussion,
> >>> hadn't actually read any notes about it, and were just adding
> >>> information that you thought was similar to what had been discussed.
> >>> Then you edited the page again, so I removed your admin privileges.
> >>> ----  End of Snippet  ----
> >>>
> >>> Here is my response to each point:
> >>> >You edited the membership page, adding incorrect information
> >>>
> >>> The information was correct as of 10-29-13. Sorry if my information had
> >>> become wildly out of date a week later.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> >, ignoring the notice that the page should only be edited as the
> result
> >>> > of a consensus discussion.
> >>>
> >>> 1- You had placed that notice there just a few hours before. It's
> >>> bothersome to think you could write something on a wiki and have it
> stand as
> >>> the law for all eternity without any questioning. The entire world
> does not
> >>> attend all of the same meetings that you attend.
> >>> 2- You specifically told me that fixing typos was ok
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> > When I rolled back your changes and asked you to
> >>> > stop, you admitted that you weren't at the consensus discussion,
> >>>
> >>> I missed a meeting and was making edits that followed a discussion that
> >>> had happened 8 days previously. Sue me.
> >>>
> >>> > hadn't actually read any notes about it, and were just adding
> >>> > information that you thought was similar to what had been discussed.
> >>>
> >>> You are making shit up. Read the full text of my email to you here.
> >>> Your melodramatic paraphrasing is not becoming.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> >Then you edited the page again, so I removed your admin privileges.
> >>>
> >>> I edited the page again following your specific instructions.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Tom, I would appreciate it if you restored my bureaucrat and
> >>> administrator
> >>> rights on the wiki.
> >>>
> >>> Thanks,
> >>> Lee
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 5:11 PM, Tom Lowenthal <me at tomlowenthal.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Lee Sonko <lee at lee.org> wrote:
> >>>> > Tom, why did you remove my bureaucrat and administrator rights on
> the
> >>>> > Noisebridge wiki and stop answering my emails?
> >>>>
> >>>> Lee, I removed your admin privileges to stop you from continuing to
> >>>> edit the protected page describing our membership process.
> >>>>
> >>>> You edited the membership page, adding incorrect information, ignoring
> >>>> the notice that the page should only be edited as the result of a
> >>>> consensus discussion. When I rolled back your changes and asked you to
> >>>> stop, you admitted that you weren't at the consensus discussion,
> >>>> hadn't actually read any notes about it, and were just adding
> >>>> information that you thought was similar to what had been discussed.
> >>>> Then you edited the page again, so I removed your admin privileges.
> >>>>
> >>>> Was it also you (IP 71.135.45.119) who edited the anti-harassment
> >>>> policy page? Perhaps it was someone else. In any event, if
> >>>> 71.135.45.119 is reading: the text on that page is *also* the result
> >>>> of a consensus process, and should not be edited. In fact, the page
> >>>> has a banner across the top letting readers know about the policy's
> >>>> trial period, and how to contribute on Github, which is where we
> >>>> agreed to work on changes.
> >>>>
> >>>> -Tom
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