[Noisebridge-discuss] amendments to membership proposal - associate members and 24/7 hours

spinach williams spinach.williams at gmail.com
Mon Oct 21 23:15:34 UTC 2013

when tested, the system fails, and so the answer is to expand its reach?

On Mon, Oct 21, 2013 at 4:08 PM, Jake <jake at spaz.org> wrote:

> tl;dr at the end of this post is the amended consensus item for this week
> I just found out that an excellent hacker was working on stuff late at
> noisebridge last night, and was asked to leave at 11:00PM.  This is
> terribly sad and should not have happened.  I consider it to be a serious
> bug in the system.
> I tracked down the cause of this crash to the horrible mutation of my last
> proposal, specifically, making the members-and-guests policy only take
> effect after 23:00 (11PM) until 10AM  (I had wanted it to be 24/7)
> With this current borked policy, people continue to come into noisebridge
> without meeting anyone, without getting a sponsor, no tour and no
> introduction.  And regardless of whether they're hacking or abusing the
> space, they are asked to leave at 11PM by the same anonymous unfriendly
> mystery that let them in.  This is total shit.
> So, I think we need to end the limited-hours policy and change it to a
> full-time policy, something that we can maintain at all hours.  If members
> of the space want to ask people to leave at 11PM (or 2PM or noon or
> anytime), they can still do so, if those non-members are without a live
> sponsor at that time.  Importantly, this means that Members and other
> people who understand the policy will explain it to people coming in the
> door, regardless of what time they came in.  That way, if someone is
> working on stuff and it starts getting late, they will be able to ask
> someone to sponsor their continued hacking rather than just be carelessly
> booted out.
> In order for us to move to full-time Members rule, there need to be more
> Members.  I have a solution for that which should be less objectionable
> than the proposal i've put out there for this week.
> I propose that we add a tier of membership, called Associate Member, which
> is a person who has been consensed upon to be an Associate Member.  Their
> duty to noisebridge does not include a mandatory cash donation but a
> general "regular contributions to Noisebridge".
> Associate Members will not be able to block consensus items.  But they
> will be able to sponsor guests while they are present in the space, like
> full members can.
> At the same time I propose that we remove the time restriction on the
> policy of Members and their Guests only.  This may sound like it will
> create a problem when there are not enough members around the space, but in
> practice it should encourage members and guests to get to know one another
> at all times, rather than only at 11PM when guests are being asked to leave
> (which is how it is now)
> When it is normal for every guest to be introduced to a Member or
> Associate Member, when night falls and the membership wants to ask some
> people to leave who are without sponsors, there will be enough awareness of
> the guest sponsorship policy that guests who want to continue to stay will
> be aware that they can ask members to sponsor them so they can continue
> hacking.  This is the intended goal - to increase the connection between
> guests and members (not to just kick out non-members all the time)
> the amended proposal should be worded as follows:
>  A new Tier of Membership to Noisebridge shall exist, called Associate
>  Member.  People can become Associate Members through the normal
>  membership process.  Associate Members are not required to contribute to
>  Noisebridge financially, only to "contribute regularly" to Noisebridge.
>  Associate Members, while present, can host non-members in the space just
>  like Full Members.  But Associate Members cannot block consensus like
>  Members.
>  Also the policy of Noisebridge as a space open only to Members and their
>  guests shall be changed to 24 hours a day instead of 23:00 to 10:00.
>  This means that at any time, a person who is without a live sponsor in
>  the space can be told that if they cannot find a new live sponsor
>  promptly they should pack up and come back another time, perhaps Tuesday
>  night.
> The spirit of the last paragraph is not to exclude people but rather to
> encourage a connection between each guest of the space and at least one
> Member of the space at all times.
> -jake
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