[Noisebridge-discuss] amendments to membership proposal - associate members and 24/7 hours

[John Ellis]

Alan,

At the meeting, I suggested that consensus item was premature;

IMO it would be better to discuss and plan guidelines, such as ask people
who are in the space late at night "what is Noisebridge?","What is a
hackerspace?" and "what are you hacking/making/working on?" If somebody has
no clue about Noisebridge beyond "Its open 24/7" then that should influence
the decision on suggesting they should leave. If a guest is being excellent
and working on something, let them stay past 11:00 PM

-John



On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 1:31 PM, Alan Rockefeller <alanrockefeller at gmail.com
> wrote:

> When I first read about this proposal I thought that it was an additional
> tool that could be appled as needed to kick out people who were just
> bumming around and not working on anything.    I thought that it was
> understood that if they were being productive and not bothering anyone that
> they would not be asked to leave when their sponsor does.
>
> It appears that it is being taken too seriously, and that good people are
> being asked to leave.   That is unexcellent.
>
> If I was hacking something and someone asked me to leave even though I was
> not bothering anyone, I would be pissed.   And that is not a good way to
> treat people new to the space.
>
> How many hackers do we have to kick out in order to get the people that
> are just using nb as a roof to leave?
>
> It seems that this policy is adding unnecessary rules that affect both
> good and bad people.   Perhaps it should be adjusted somehow so if someone
> is soldering or coding and their sponsoring member leaves, people do not
> feel the need to make the productive person leave?
>
> I would almost rather have people sitting around doing nothing than have a
> policy that forces good people out the door.
>
> Perhaps a better solution is to ask people who are loitering to leave?
> Perhaps a no loitering policy or guideline?   Or no loitering from 11pm
> until 9am?
>
> Or maybe we don‘t a guideline and should just start asking people to leave
> and come back to a meeting any time we notice someone using the space
> inappropriately.
>
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