[Noisebridge-discuss] Noisebridge is now Members and their Guests only, 24/7 please read and learn about it

Lane Copley lcopley at gmail.com
Wed Oct 30 15:39:43 UTC 2013


Is this discussion over now that Dayton has compared Jake to Hitler?


On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 7:50 AM, Dayton Grant <daytongrant68 at gmail.com>wrote:

> Super++ on FAA's comment!!!!!
>
> AAMOF, Noisebridge should now be called Noisebridge Farm based upon George Orwell's http://www.george-orwell.org/Animal_Farm/
>
> Orwell's excellent classic now becomes just as much a must-read as the new "24/7 please read and learn about it"
> Consensus policy.
>
> - Farm visionary Major (read Mitch A) effectively disappears from the scene
>
> - The many definitely Excellent Snowball hackers are inevitably driven out of the Farm (read The Space)
> - Comrade Napolean (read Member Jake and other supporting Members) enact new "More Improved" rules of Excellence
>
> - ALL ANIMALS ARE EQUAL BUT SOME ANIMALS ARE MORE EQUAL THAN OTHERS (read ALL NB VISITING HACKERS ARE EQUAL BUT SOME
> HACKERS ARE MORE EQUAL THAN OTHERS excluding the ability to pay & consense)
>
> ... QED and so it happens...
>
> DaG
>
> -------
>
> "Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it."
>
> Quote by George Santayana
>
> -------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
> > Just to keep it simple, from yesterday on Noisebridge has become members only hackerspace, correct?
> > If I come alone and I'm not a member (or associate member) and no one vouch for me after someone
>
> > asking me and deciding that I do not do anything creative based on his/her judgment, I have to leave.
> >
> > Well that is definitely a change which I'm truly sorry for, the negative impact of this decision
> > will be really big within the whole hacker community not just in USA. I wonder how many people who
> > believed in the openness of the place will quit or at least become much less passionate, the second
>
> > will definitely apply to me. There were thousands and thousands of people who have heard me
> > championing the place for years stressing the openest as the key factor and I know there were many
> > more doing the same but this is really changing the whole paradigm.
> >
> >
> > This makes me very sad I'm truly surprised that after so much of negative feed back which I have
> > seen on the list it was pushed through, that is not the way how the consensus should work I think.
> > I can hardly imagine that the situation would be so bad that no other solution could be found with
>
> > people still physically active in the place.
> >
> >I respect you Jake for trying to help to keep the place running but this is bad turn, bad decision,
> > more easy one sure but leaving the ideal way aside. For me the atmosphere will change tremendously.
>
>
> Sincerely,
>
>
> FAA
>
>
> Frantisek Algoldor Apfelbeck
>
>
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Lane

Nobody listened to Cassandra, either.
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