[Noisebridge-discuss] amendments to membership proposal - associate members and 24/7 hours

[Oren Beck]

On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 8:07 AM, Hannah Grimm <dharlette at gmail.com> wrote:

> Personally, I think the new rule is great (and this is someone who is not
> a member).  I'm also just fine with there being a sort of "junior member"
> state that is enough to be allowed in after hours, which should be easier
> to achieve and does NOT have the right to block.  The ability to block is
> an incredibly powerful one, and it only takes two jerkoffs with Membership
> to cause havoc and defend each other from attempts to remove them.  We need
> to be careful about handing that out; we've had issues with people who
> don't really understand consensus blocking things in a way that is highly
> detrimental to the community.  I like there being three levels: visitors,
> who need someone to accompany them, members, who can visit without a
> chaperone, and Members, who can block and who pay (because paying gives us
> a way of getting rid of them if they're ever late on their dues).
>
>
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Well said.

The open issues list is IMO still stuck at two points. Hacking is
inherently messy so the points are reflective of that:

 How do we:

Point # 1: Ensure that absent improper conduct-CONTRIBUTING  people will
unfailingly feel SAFE and CHERISHED quite apart from all else.

#1 Explains as: "This is not about Judas's handful of coins folks, nor is
it about popularity contest reindeer games. If you are HACKING in the
space- you are Contributing if only by Example.

*Cherish Hackers*

Point# 2:On a 24/7 basis- be clearly making the Perps&/Squatters 100%
UNwelcome as NB is a space for all Participants- No spectators,  unless
it's a show night or non-participants are somehow vouched for.

#2 explains as:  Either we actively- even yes- challenging the risky
cases-  kick the bad eggs OUT upon the first un-Hacker conduct/absence of
proven Hacker Cred- or we risk the abovementioned fail of people not
feeling SAFE. Show nights and AUTHORIZED guests as a possible exception to
the no spectators rule.

Teal Deer: If someone acts enough of an ass that they grossly threaten
others- they are showing a risk of not being WORTH the risk.  Intimidation
is Conduct Unbecoming at it's most UN-excellent and supersedes all else as
potential ticket to 86 Status

All screeds deserve a pointed recap.. And I openly state my points are
trying to have NB thrive by nurturing the best&brightest we attract while
not letting predators or just disruptor fails- endanger our NEEDS TO BE A
Safe Space.

Oren Beck

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