[Noisebridge-discuss] Just what is "Hacking".

[Nicholas LoCicero]

Someone should use the hacker stacker for another creative, lay down
activity.
On Sep 3, 2013 8:42 AM, "Nicholas LoCicero" <nick.locicero at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hacking is a creative activity.
> On Sep 2, 2013 6:04 PM, "jim" <jim at well.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>     The 1985 hacker's convention agreed that the term
>> "hacker" does not apply to (4.) the "cracker" who
>> breaks into systems. These were all computer-oriented
>> folks.
>>
>>     The planning meetings before NB had any spaces
>> included more disciplines than just those that are
>> computer-oriented, such as electronics (the most
>> common) as well as various crafts and arts.
>>     The intention of founding was to include a wide
>> variety of people. I was there. The sense of greater
>> inclusion was, and among some of us still here is,
>> part of the purpose and benefit.
>>
>>     The first NB space (83c weisse) included a cooking
>> area so people could fix something to eat while they
>> were in the space.
>>     When we moved into 2169 Mission, we set up a
>> kitchen facility for people to cook meals. After that
>> was set up, people began to do hacking with foods and
>> other bio stuff.
>>
>>     We have had repeated strife caused by computer-
>> only mentalities trying to define NB as a computer
>> hacker-only space and trying to ban people who did
>> not fit their narrow and narrow-minded concepts. Such
>> machinations create an obnoxious atmosphere.
>>
>>     Nobody should be stealing or sleeping in the space
>> because that's not excellent to others. That is the
>> only policy or rule for NB founding. Those who are
>> helping to defeat stealing and sleeping and fisticuffs
>> are doing the right thing and deserve support, but not
>> to the point of narrowing the criteria for inclusion.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, 2013-09-02 at 16:07 -0700, Norman Bradley wrote:
>> > Feel free to call me a curmudgeon. I’ve been called that before.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Although my bachelors degree is in Math/Computer Science I have always
>> > felt that language should express ideas accurately. So I can state
>> > definitively that there is no such thing as a Sleep Hacker. Also the
>> > use of the word Hacker for things like, Food/Cooking, Sewing, and
>> > Music, should only be used if those involved are doing something
>> > completely new to them. Cooking dinner just doesn’t count.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > To quote the Merriam Webster online dictionary a Hacker is:
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > 3: an expert at programming and solving problems with a computer
>> >
>> > 4: a person who illegally gains access to and sometimes tampers with
>> > information in a computer system
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Number 1 refers to chopping things up and number 2 refers to someone
>> > who is unskilled or inexperienced. So unless you are inexperienced or
>> > unskilled at sleep (or you are chopping it up) you aren’t hacking
>> > anything and you are putting the lease in danger.
>> >
>> > --
>> > You are entitled to your own opinion.
>> > You are NOT entitled to your own facts.
>> >
>> > Norman
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