[Noisebridge-discuss] Just what is "Hacking".

Nicholas LoCicero nick.locicero at gmail.com
Tue Sep 3 15:42:37 UTC 2013


Hacking is a creative activity.
On Sep 2, 2013 6:04 PM, "jim" <jim at well.com> wrote:

>
>     The 1985 hacker's convention agreed that the term
> "hacker" does not apply to (4.) the "cracker" who
> breaks into systems. These were all computer-oriented
> folks.
>
>     The planning meetings before NB had any spaces
> included more disciplines than just those that are
> computer-oriented, such as electronics (the most
> common) as well as various crafts and arts.
>     The intention of founding was to include a wide
> variety of people. I was there. The sense of greater
> inclusion was, and among some of us still here is,
> part of the purpose and benefit.
>
>     The first NB space (83c weisse) included a cooking
> area so people could fix something to eat while they
> were in the space.
>     When we moved into 2169 Mission, we set up a
> kitchen facility for people to cook meals. After that
> was set up, people began to do hacking with foods and
> other bio stuff.
>
>     We have had repeated strife caused by computer-
> only mentalities trying to define NB as a computer
> hacker-only space and trying to ban people who did
> not fit their narrow and narrow-minded concepts. Such
> machinations create an obnoxious atmosphere.
>
>     Nobody should be stealing or sleeping in the space
> because that's not excellent to others. That is the
> only policy or rule for NB founding. Those who are
> helping to defeat stealing and sleeping and fisticuffs
> are doing the right thing and deserve support, but not
> to the point of narrowing the criteria for inclusion.
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, 2013-09-02 at 16:07 -0700, Norman Bradley wrote:
> > Feel free to call me a curmudgeon. I’ve been called that before.
> >
> >
> >
> > Although my bachelors degree is in Math/Computer Science I have always
> > felt that language should express ideas accurately. So I can state
> > definitively that there is no such thing as a Sleep Hacker. Also the
> > use of the word Hacker for things like, Food/Cooking, Sewing, and
> > Music, should only be used if those involved are doing something
> > completely new to them. Cooking dinner just doesn’t count.
> >
> >
> >
> > To quote the Merriam Webster online dictionary a Hacker is:
> >
> >
> >
> > 3: an expert at programming and solving problems with a computer
> >
> > 4: a person who illegally gains access to and sometimes tampers with
> > information in a computer system
> >
> >
> >
> > Number 1 refers to chopping things up and number 2 refers to someone
> > who is unskilled or inexperienced. So unless you are inexperienced or
> > unskilled at sleep (or you are chopping it up) you aren’t hacking
> > anything and you are putting the lease in danger.
> >
> > --
> > You are entitled to your own opinion.
> > You are NOT entitled to your own facts.
> >
> > Norman
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