[Noisebridge-discuss] reasoning about the kitchen

Naomi Most pnaomi at gmail.com
Fri Apr 18 00:59:22 UTC 2014

No one should be required to have a user page on the public wiki.

That's a "nice to have", but using a public website to keep track of
people in your community smacks of potential for endangerment (e.g.
people may not want their abusive ex'es knowing where they hang out).

If you respond by saying pseudonyms could be used, then you haven't
solved any problems -- you've just created a bullshit requirement.

Anyway, what's a "non-hacker"?  I'm not trying to troll, here -- I am
pointing out that the hacker/non-hacker distinction is a slippery red
herring of a concept.


On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 12:24 PM, Johny Radio <johnyradio at gmail.com> wrote:
> From: "rachel lyra hospodar" <rachelyra at gmail.com>
>> Before Jesse and Will called the cops on cynthia, she headed up an ongoing
>> cleaning effort that was pretty epic. I suspect that cynthia's cleaning
>> efforts were part of what kept the kitchen space usable then. Perhaps she
>> would like to be part of a cleaning working group. Crazy people like being
>> part of a community, too.
> J: Your description seems a mix of pros and cons. Both should be weighed:
> the good should outweigh the bad, and the bad can't be TOO bad. No one
> person knows all the good and bad about someone. I suggest all non-hackers
> who are or want to be a permanent part of NB:
>     -have user-pages on the wiki
>     -get endorsements from members (any type) on their userpage
>     -be required to do volunteer hours (like members)
>     -not be allowed to lead any WG (members only)
>     -not be allowed to sit on any Working Groups (unless permitted by the WG
> leaders)
>     -some way to keep history of bad behavior (as reported by members only).
> Eg:
>         -got cops called on her (need to record why)
>         -moved hacking tables into kitchen after members removed kitchen
> countertops
>         -....?
> RLH: "I suspect that cynthia's cleaning efforts were part of what kept the
> kitchen space usable then."
> J: But for who? For herself and other non-hackers?

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