[Noisebridge-discuss] Rachel's language
Callme Whatiwant
nejucomo at gmail.com
Tue Apr 1 00:24:12 UTC 2014
On Sat, Mar 29, 2014 at 9:59 PM, Al Sweigart <asweigart at gmail.com> wrote:
> Everyone, please ignore Leif.
No thanks. I'm a fan of the brand of consensus which doesn't involve
ignorance, especially at the request of others.
> He has a pattern of attacking people he has
> personal problems with by saying they're trolls.
Could you hunt up links demonstrating this pattern?
> Leif's beef with Ron comes
> from two years ago when he threatened to block his membership, so Ron
> withdrew it.
Thanks for the context. It is corroborated also by this email Leif
posted in another thread [1].
[1] https://www.noisebridge.net/pipermail/noisebridge-discuss/2014-March/043321.html
> Now that Ron has become a member with the requisite two
> signatures and four weeks waiting and consensus approval, Leif wants to find
> a new way around consensus to purge him from membership.
>
Ah, the ol' noisebridge favorite pasttime:
A: Don't trust B because <some facts> so therefore <assertion about
B's "true secret motives">.
C: Don't trust A because <some facts> so therefore <assertion about
A's "true secret motives">.
D: ... <repeat the pattern>
> -Al
>
>
> On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 9:31 PM, Leif Ryge <leif at synthesize.us> wrote:
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 09:20:15PM -0700, Ronald Cotoni wrote:
>> > You know what, perhaps that should be a list wide thing. It shows
>> > respect
>> > and transparency. What does everyone think?
>>
>> I think you're pretty good at trolling Noisebridge and I wish you'd stop.
>>
Could you try to explain what behavior you wish Ronald would stop and
why *without resorting to descriptions of their motives*?
Could you propose an alternative positive behavior instead of a
generic prohibition?
Just some thoughts that might be more fruitful than a "you're a troll;
no *you're* a poopy head" thread.
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