[Noisebridge-discuss] Fwd: how Noisebridge could improve

[Hannah Grimm]

+1000 to Rachel


On Sat, Apr 19, 2014 at 12:37 PM, rachel lyra hospodar
<rachelyra at gmail.com>wrote:

> I might feel that way when half a dozen female-identified people are able
> to have a conversation on this email list or at Noisebridge that isn't
> about harassment, or interrupted by it.  Consider it a bechdel-type test.
> For me it's more that when it comes to issues that disproportionately harm
> women (like harassment) there's a lot of non-progress that happens until
> enough women demand it be taken seriously.  If that makes any men feel bad,
> then I suggest they learn to be better allies.  In an ideal world, the
> people who are victims of harassment shouldn't have to say a thing;
> everyone else should swiftly take care of the issue for them.
>
>
>
> On Fri, Apr 18, 2014 at 2:06 PM, spinach williams <
> spinach.williams at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Friday, April 18, 2014 01:05:26 PM Rachel McConnell wrote:
>> > You probably didn't mean it this way, Hannah, but this reads to me like
>> > "men are useless nothing gets done until the women pick it up".  Which
>> > is obviously both incorrect and unhelpful for building community :)
>> the comment struck me as specifically concerning issues of sexual
>> harassment
>> and assault, and of other hostilities toward women in the space and on the
>> list, in which case, men may have a place in the discussion, but until
>> women
>> actually become involved, no men can claim that progress has been made.
>>
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