[Noisebridge-discuss] Fwd: how Noisebridge could improve

[Ronald Cotoni]

Yes to what Hannah and Rachel have said times a billion.
On Apr 19, 2014 2:15 PM, "Hannah Grimm" <dharlette at gmail.com> wrote:

> +1000 to Rachel
>
>
> On Sat, Apr 19, 2014 at 12:37 PM, rachel lyra hospodar <
> rachelyra at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I might feel that way when half a dozen female-identified people are able
>> to have a conversation on this email list or at Noisebridge that isn't
>> about harassment, or interrupted by it.  Consider it a bechdel-type test.
>>  For me it's more that when it comes to issues that disproportionately
>> harm women (like harassment) there's a lot of non-progress that happens
>> until enough women demand it be taken seriously.  If that makes any men
>> feel bad, then I suggest they learn to be better allies.  In an ideal
>> world, the people who are victims of harassment shouldn't have to say a
>> thing; everyone else should swiftly take care of the issue for them.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Apr 18, 2014 at 2:06 PM, spinach williams <
>> spinach.williams at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Friday, April 18, 2014 01:05:26 PM Rachel McConnell wrote:
>>> > You probably didn't mean it this way, Hannah, but this reads to me like
>>> > "men are useless nothing gets done until the women pick it up".  Which
>>> > is obviously both incorrect and unhelpful for building community :)
>>> the comment struck me as specifically concerning issues of sexual
>>> harassment
>>> and assault, and of other hostilities toward women in the space and on
>>> the
>>> list, in which case, men may have a place in the discussion, but until
>>> women
>>> actually become involved, no men can claim that progress has been made.
>>>
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