[Noisebridge-discuss] Feminist Book Club For Men: tomorrow 7pm was: The Nuclear Option

Jeffrey Carl Faden jeffreyatw at gmail.com
Wed Jan 8 15:49:24 UTC 2014

I don't think Tom's response to your behavior has anything to do with your gender.Jeffrey

On Wed, Jan 8, 2014 at 12:40 AM, Lee Sonko <lee at lee.org> wrote:

> Tom, if feminism is <http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/feminism> "the
> belief that men and women should have equal rights and opportunities", and
> you treat men like me with such undeserved disdain, then you don't seem to
> be the best person to organize a feminist book club. If you recall, I
> reached out to you in an unflaggingly positive manner multiple times in the
> last 2 months to resolve an issue and got only non-responses in email (see
> below) and "don't ever call me" on the telephone.
> Lee
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Lee Sonko <lee at lee.org>
> Date: Sat, Dec 21, 2013 at 5:29 PM
> Subject: Re: [Noisebridge-discuss] The Nuclear Option
> To: Tom Lowenthal <me at tomlowenthal.com>
> Tom, I didn't see any response from you concerning the issue below.
> Happy Holidays
> Lee
> On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 10:28 AM, Lee Sonko <lee at lee.org> wrote:
>> (sent just to Tom)
>> I wish I had positive things to say about our interactions concerning NB
>> and wiki admin rights. I know you commit a lot of energy to the space. I
>> commit energy to it as well, not as much as you, but I think I understand
>> the passion. Your non-responses were the worst. From my end, I can't figure
>> out what is up and can only assume that you are an adversary to be gotten
>> around. That isn't as productive or as fun as working together.
>> I will keep trying to connect and I hope we can be on the same side,
>> Have a great day and Happy Holidays,
>> Lee
>> PS. I would interpret a non-response to this email, like the other
>> non-responses, to be slightly hostile.
>> On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 5:11 PM, Tom Lowenthal <me at tomlowenthal.com>wrote:
>>> Lee Sonko <lee at lee.org> wrote:
>>> > Tom, why did you remove my bureaucrat and administrator rights on the
>>> > Noisebridge wiki and stop answering my emails?
>>> Lee, I removed your admin privileges to stop you from continuing to
>>> edit the protected page describing our membership process.
>>> You edited the membership page, adding incorrect information, ignoring
>>> the notice that the page should only be edited as the result of a
>>> consensus discussion. When I rolled back your changes and asked you to
>>> stop, you admitted that you weren't at the consensus discussion,
>>> hadn't actually read any notes about it, and were just adding
>>> information that you thought was similar to what had been discussed.
>>> Then you edited the page again, so I removed your admin privileges.
>>> Was it also you (IP who edited the anti-harassment
>>> policy page? Perhaps it was someone else. In any event, if
>>> is reading: the text on that page is *also* the result
>>> of a consensus process, and should not be edited. In fact, the page
>>> has a banner across the top letting readers know about the policy's
>>> trial period, and how to contribute on Github, which is where we
>>> agreed to work on changes.
>>> -Tom
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