[Noisebridge-discuss] Feminist Book Club For Men: tomorrow 7pm was: The Nuclear Option

[Lee Sonko]

Hannah writes:
-------- Original Message -------------
I think you need to back off here.  Replying to a thread about something
awesome and very much needed at Noisebridge to dredge up a personal
grievance you have with an individual is an obvious and deliberate attempt
to stir up drama and to drag the feminist book club down with it.  That is
not cool.  The way you describe your interactions with Tom (calling &
emailing him repeatedly, despite him making it clear that he doesn't want
to speak with you) is a set of behavior that frankly would incredibly freak
me out if you were doing it to me.  If feminism is "the belief that men and
women should have equal rights and opportunities" then I hope you don't do
this to ladies because I'd be seriously threatened by this kind of behavior.
-------- End of Original Message ------

Tom changed my rights on the wiki and then refused to discuss the matter,
or any matter, repeatedly. That was my first and only interaction with him
despite me trying nicely to resolve the situation. I am receiving a clear
signal that he is not a good communicator.  That directly relates to him
organizing a feminist book club; I suppose it actually only relates to him
facilitating a discussion, not organizing, but the two tasks often go
hand-in-hand. If he is petty and non-communicative with me, a virtual
stranger, I don't believe he would make a good leader for a book club
founded on discussing the sometimes strained communication between people
of different genders. Hence my comments.

>calling & emailing him repeatedly, despite him making it clear that he
doesn't want to speak with you)  is a set of behavior that frankly
>would incredibly freak me out if you were doing it to me

Please reread my original email, that is not what I wrote, nor is that what
happened. He used his powerful rights on the wiki against my account and
then (as now) refuses to communicate about the exercise of those rights. The
issue has, sadly, never been resolved because Tom continues to not
communicate with me. He told me to stop calling on the phone so I stopped.
He hasn't responded to any of my emails except those I've CCed to the list.
So that's how I communicate with him. I'm playing a game of his making. I
remain open to discussion and resolution. Tom seems to remain closed. That
seems like a poor choice for an organizer and perhaps facilitator of a
feminist book club for men.

I hope that the feminist book club for men meeting went well. Did it?


Lee


On Wed, Jan 8, 2014 at 6:32 PM, Hannah Grimm <dharlette at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hey Lee,
> I think you need to back off here.  Replying to a thread about something
> awesome and very much needed at Noisebridge to dredge up a personal
> grievance you have with an individual is an obvious and deliberate attempt
> to stir up drama and to drag the feminist book club down with it.  That is
> not cool.  The way you describe your interactions with Tom (calling &
> emailing him repeatedly, despite him making it clear that he doesn't want
> to speak with you) is a set of behavior that frankly would incredibly freak
> me out if you were doing it to me.  If feminism is "the belief that men
> and women should have equal rights and opportunities" then I hope you don't
> do this to ladies because I'd be seriously threatened by this kind of
> behavior.
>
> Hannah
>
>
> On Wed, Jan 8, 2014 at 9:23 AM, jarrod hicks <hicksu at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Organizing an event at Noisebridge does not require that the organizer
>> be the best person for the job (far from it), only that the person be
>> willing to do the work necessary to make the event/class/meeting
>> happen; 'and proud we are of all of them'. Even if in this case by
>> "not the best" you may actually mean "I think you are possibly the
>> worst", events/classes/meetings are educational for their facilitator
>> as well and so not being good at something is still a great
>> prerequisite for organizing getting together with others to learn.
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