[Noisebridge-discuss] on consensus

[Naomi Most]

Thanks for piping up, Rachel.

Yeah, it’s worth taking quite seriously the fact that Noisebridge as a group has never been “consensus trained”.

There was consensus-as-practiced among the original Noisebridge group, which “worked” fairly decently and resembled good consensus behavior, but mostly by dint of having a smaller, tight-knit community with far fewer ideological differences.  

Now there is consensus-as-practiced in current Noisebridge, which has neither the advantage of a tight-knit community nor that of a strong tradition in a respectable consensus making manner.

I’m very much at odds with this whole “consensus doesn’t work” contention, largely due to the argument’s ever-more-obvious basis in misconceptions.

—Naomi



On Mar 14, 2014, at 6:54 PM, Ronald Cotoni <setient at gmail.com> wrote:

> YAY!
> 
> 
> On Fri, Mar 14, 2014 at 4:33 PM, rachel lyra hospodar <rachelyra at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> In a recent email,
> On 3/14/2014 2:17 PM, Al Sweigart wrote:
> No one owes anyone compromise or explanation when they block an item.
> 
> which is actually patently untrue and kind of an integral part of any consensus process - people willing to work with each other.  I don't have a horse in the tom-jake argument, have seen them both be reasonable and not-reasonable at different times, and consider them both to be friends.
> 
> I have been meaning to write some ranty polemics to the list about how consensus works, since many of us seem to be missing some key things.
> 
> I just went off hiatus, kids.  look out.
> 
> R.
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