[Noisebridge-discuss] Trimmed off the board list

rachel lyra hospodar rachelyra at gmail.com
Wed Mar 26 21:40:51 UTC 2014

I wonder, Al, if you have any thoughts on the ideological tension between
your statements 'community buy in is key' and 'not everyone will be
completely satisfied'

One thing 100 percent consensus neatly solves is taking the factionalism
out of who gets to have their way. Everyone does, not just whoever is in

You are clearly delineating that you are in power here, Al. Is your goal to
use your power to get your way? From my point of view, that is what you are
trying to do here. This could be out of ignorance, blindness, stubbornness,
or a willfull belief that Father Al knows best.

You'll forgive me for finding the most hope in believing you to be, in this
case, ignorant and stubborn.... since I sure don't believe in a
paternalistic approach to life. I don't think Father Al knows best. I do
respect you for trying, but call me crazy optimistic for hoping for you to
grow, change.  Maybe you should try putting up signs for meth like you did
for graffiti... that worked, right?

I gotta take a break now, kids, I just admitted in public to respecting Al.

On Mar 26, 2014 11:30 AM, "Al Sweigart" <asweigart at gmail.com> wrote:

> Madelynn and Tom articulated this better last night at the meeting, but I
> want to reiterate for people just following the list that these changes are
> not out of nowhere. We have been talking with individuals about how to fix
> Noisebridge's problems well before the election. Community buy-in is key. I
> don't want to dismiss the election results out of hand; it's not fair to
> the members who voted after being told the board would take an active hand
> at space improvements. This also doesn't mean the board is accountable to
> no one, but it does mean that not everyone will be completely satisfied
> with decisions being made (just like any group of people).
> On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 2:16 PM, rachel lyra hospodar <rachelyra at gmail.com
> > wrote:
>> I would like to apologize, it appears I was mistaken. It seems that the
>> list was not trimmed, but that discussion of these fundamental changes did
>> not take place online any place I am able to find, follow, or see, as a
>> former board member, council member, member member, throbbing gristle
>> member.
>> Community buy in for shifts is really key, people. The bigger the shift
>> the more important this piece of the puzzle is.
>> It's never too late to work towards consensus.
>> R.
>> On Mar 26, 2014 6:08 AM, "rachel lyra hospodar" <rachelyra at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>> I think it's interesting that sometime in the last month or so, someone
>>> has for the first time since i was added in 2010, gone through the board
>>> email list and trimmed out former board members.
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