[Noisebridge-discuss] noisebridge / the door is fucked up
Hannah Grimm
dharlette at gmail.com
Thu Mar 6 06:39:30 UTC 2014
I still don't see what any of the (completely legitimate) complaints Jake
has have to do with board elections.
On Wed, Mar 5, 2014 at 4:45 PM, Gregory Dillon <gregorydillon at gmail.com>wrote:
>
> On Wed, Mar 5, 2014 at 1:45 PM, Jeffrey Carl Faden <jeffreyatw at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> On the topic of constructive suggestions, what was the point and how did
>> Hannah miss it?
>>
>
> I read it that Jake was not saying electoral fraud, but that the Board
> of Directors don't really direct. Hence a "shame election."
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 5, 2014 at 1:45 PM, Jeffrey Carl Faden <jeffreyatw at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> On the topic of constructive suggestions, what was the point and how did
>> Hannah miss it?
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 5, 2014 at 1:30 PM, Jake <jake at spaz.org> wrote:
>>
>>> you have completely missed the point.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, 5 Mar 2014, Hannah Grimm wrote:
>>>
>>> Fortunately, the only duties of the board are to fulfill our "being a
>>>> nonprofit" requirements, so you deciding you think they
>>>> aren't illegitimate has exactly ZERO effect on anything going on at
>>>> Noisebridge.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Mar 5, 2014 at 8:38 AM, Kevin <bfb at riseup.net> wrote:
>>>> On March 5, 2014 12:42:03 AM PST, Jake <jake at spaz.org> wrote:
>>>> > someone cut the wires to the payphone that allows people to
>>>> open the
>>>> > gate
>>>> > with a door code. probably because they figured (correctly)
>>>> that
>>>> > people
>>>> > would just jam the door open so it doesn't ever latch, rather
>>>> than fix
>>>> > it.
>>>> >
>>>> > nobody capable of splicing eight wires has fixed it yet, as of
>>>> last
>>>> > night,
>>>> > because the only people who go to noisebridge now think that
>>>> wire is
>>>> > for
>>>> > tying a sleeping bag onto your backpack.
>>>> >
>>>> > nobody has posted a message to the discuss list because people
>>>> who
>>>> > know
>>>> > how to use computers no longer go to noisebridge to know to
>>>> post about
>>>> > it.
>>>> >
>>>> > also, one of the toilets at noisebridge is now for "liquids
>>>> only"
>>>> > because
>>>> > the skill and will to repair a clogged toilet are not
>>>> available. The
>>>> > clog
>>>> > is likely due to lack of toilet paper causing someone to use a
>>>> handy
>>>> > rag
>>>> > to wipe their ass rather than buy toilet paper. There is a mop
>>>> there,
>>>> > and
>>>> > a sign saying to mop up "when" the toilet leaks.
>>>> >
>>>> > until the beaurocrats and blockers use their marvelous power of
>>>> > consensus,
>>>> > blockage, grandstanding and bickering to do something to
>>>> improve the
>>>> > overall culture at noisebridge to a point where hackers
>>>> actually want
>>>> > to
>>>> > go there, i refuse to acknowledge the results of this sham
>>>> election
>>>> > and I
>>>> > hope others do the same.
>>>> >
>>>> > -jake
>>>> >
>>>> > On Tue, 4 Mar 2014, Tom Lowenthal wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> > > Fine folks, this is a message about bureaucracy. If that's
>>>> not your
>>>> > > thing, you should be fine to ignore it.
>>>> > >
>>>> > > We had our annual general meeting. The only motion was one to
>>>> > adjourn.
>>>> > > It passed.
>>>> > >
>>>> > > Or board election closed at 7:30pm this evening. Kevin, J.C.,
>>>> and
>>>> > Tom
>>>> > > independently counted the ballots, and their counts agreed.
>>>> The
>>>> > > following are our new board:
>>>> > >
>>>> > > * Ari Lacenski
>>>> > > * Madelynn Martiniere
>>>> > > * Tom Lowenthal
>>>> > > * Al Sweigart
>>>> > > * Naomi Most
>>>> > >
>>>> > > The board then met. Tom and Madelynn were present in person
>>>> and
>>>> > Naomi
>>>> > > called in by phone. Five motions were discussed; all were
>>>> approved:
>>>> > >
>>>> > > * All present are welcome to spectate this meeting.
>>>> > > * Danny O'Brien is Noisebridge's treasurer/CFO.
>>>> > > * Tom Lowenthal is Noisebridge's secretary.
>>>> > > * The board will meet again on 2014-03-12 at 7pm.
>>>> > > * The meeting is adjourned.
>>>> > >
>>>> > > That's all, folks!
>>>> > > -Tom
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>>>>
>>>> Jake, last night the gate had no power and when power was restored
>>>> (temporarily by JC with his bare hands), codes were not
>>>> being acknowledged. Hacker Casey fixed that by restoring the 8 bit
>>>> hardware thing's connection to the computer and plans
>>>> were discussed to run a new cable. Many have spent time with a plunger
>>>> over the toilet. Independent declogging efforts have
>>>> run their course, maybe we should hire a plumber?
>>>>
>>>> I like to make a distinction between policy makers and culture makers.
>>>> Consensus cannot dictate culture at Noisebridge.
>>>> Culture is made by everyone in the space all the time.
>>>>
>>>> That said, I still hear you do not acknowledge the bod election. What's
>>>> the board do anyway?
>>>>
>>>> -Kevin
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