[Noisebridge-discuss] noisebridge / the door is fucked up

Jake jake at spaz.org
Thu Mar 6 07:27:17 UTC 2014


not much, i was just stirred to action by the self-congratulatory progress 
of electing a meaningless board while the ship that is noisebridge slowly 
fills with sewage while waiting for a crew.

what was i supposed to do, threaten to hold my breath until changes are 
made?

On Wed, 5 Mar 2014, Hannah Grimm wrote:

> I still don't see what any of the (completely legitimate) complaints Jake has have to do with board
> elections.
> 
> 
> On Wed, Mar 5, 2014 at 4:45 PM, Gregory Dillon <gregorydillon at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> On Wed, Mar 5, 2014 at 1:45 PM, Jeffrey Carl Faden <jeffreyatw at gmail.com> wrote:
>       On the topic of constructive suggestions, what was the point and how did Hannah miss it?
> 
> 
> I read it that  Jake was not saying electoral fraud, but that  the Board of Directors don't really
> direct.   Hence a "shame election." 
> 
> 
> On Wed, Mar 5, 2014 at 1:45 PM, Jeffrey Carl Faden <jeffreyatw at gmail.com> wrote:
>       On the topic of constructive suggestions, what was the point and how did Hannah miss it?
> 
> 
> On Wed, Mar 5, 2014 at 1:30 PM, Jake <jake at spaz.org> wrote:
>       you have completely missed the point.
>
>       On Wed, 5 Mar 2014, Hannah Grimm wrote:
>
>             Fortunately, the only duties of the board are to fulfill our "being a
>             nonprofit" requirements, so you deciding you think they
>             aren't illegitimate has exactly ZERO effect on anything going on at
>             Noisebridge.
> 
>
>             On Wed, Mar 5, 2014 at 8:38 AM, Kevin <bfb at riseup.net> wrote:
>                   On March 5, 2014 12:42:03 AM PST, Jake <jake at spaz.org> wrote:
>                   > someone cut the wires to the payphone that allows people to open
>             the
>                   > gate
>                   > with a door code.  probably because they figured (correctly)
>             that
>                   > people
>                   > would just jam the door open so it doesn't ever latch, rather
>             than fix
>                   > it.
>                   >
>                   > nobody capable of splicing eight wires has fixed it yet, as of
>             last
>                   > night,
>                   > because the only people who go to noisebridge now think that
>             wire is
>                   > for
>                   > tying a sleeping bag onto your backpack.
>                   >
>                   > nobody has posted a message to the discuss list because people
>             who
>                   > know
>                   > how to use computers no longer go to noisebridge to know to post
>             about
>                   > it.
>                   >
>                   > also, one of the toilets at noisebridge is now for "liquids
>             only"
>                   > because
>                   > the skill and will to repair a clogged toilet are not available.
>              The
>                   > clog
>                   > is likely due to lack of toilet paper causing someone to use a
>             handy
>                   > rag
>                   > to wipe their ass rather than buy toilet paper.  There is a mop
>             there,
>                   > and
>                   > a sign saying to mop up "when" the toilet leaks.
>                   >
>                   > until the beaurocrats and blockers use their marvelous power of
>                   > consensus,
>                   > blockage, grandstanding and bickering to do something to improve
>             the
>                   > overall culture at noisebridge to a point where hackers actually
>             want
>                   > to
>                   > go there, i refuse to acknowledge the results of this sham
>             election
>                   > and I
>                   > hope others do the same.
>                   >
>                   > -jake
>                   >
>                   > On Tue, 4 Mar 2014, Tom Lowenthal wrote:
>                   >
>                   > > Fine folks, this is a message about bureaucracy. If that's not
>             your
>                   > > thing, you should be fine to ignore it.
>                   > >
>                   > > We had our annual general meeting. The only motion was one to
>                   > adjourn.
>                   > > It passed.
>                   > >
>                   > > Or board election closed at 7:30pm this evening. Kevin, J.C.,
>             and
>                   > Tom
>                   > > independently counted the ballots, and their counts agreed.
>             The
>                   > > following are our new board:
>                   > >
>                   > > * Ari Lacenski
>                   > > * Madelynn Martiniere
>                   > > * Tom Lowenthal
>                   > > * Al Sweigart
>                   > > * Naomi Most
>                   > >
>                   > > The board then met. Tom and Madelynn were present in person
>             and
>                   > Naomi
>                   > > called in by phone. Five motions were discussed; all were
>             approved:
>                   > >
>                   > > * All present are welcome to spectate this meeting.
>                   > > * Danny O'Brien is Noisebridge's treasurer/CFO.
>                   > > * Tom Lowenthal is Noisebridge's secretary.
>                   > > * The board will meet again on 2014-03-12 at 7pm.
>                   > > * The meeting is adjourned.
>                   > >
>                   > > That's all, folks!
>                   > > -Tom
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>             Jake, last night the gate had no power and when power was restored
>             (temporarily by JC with his bare hands), codes were not
>             being acknowledged. Hacker Casey fixed that by restoring the 8 bit
>             hardware thing's connection to the computer and plans
>             were discussed to run a new cable. Many have spent time with a plunger
>             over the toilet. Independent declogging efforts have
>             run their course, maybe we should hire a plumber?
>
>             I like to make a distinction between policy makers and culture makers.
>             Consensus cannot dictate culture at Noisebridge.
>              Culture is made by everyone in the space all the time.
>
>             That said, I still hear you do not acknowledge the bod election. What's
>             the board do anyway?
>
>             -Kevin
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