[Noisebridge-discuss] Problem: people seeing NB as a backup shelter

rachel lyra hospodar rachelyra at gmail.com
Sun May 11 21:15:14 UTC 2014

Good user design practice accommodates the shortcomings of the users, and
the people being conflict-avoidant is a fact that must be incorporated into
our system design, even if that conflict-avoidance is a state we are
actively working to change.
On May 11, 2014 7:40 AM, "Jeffrey Carl Faden" <jeffreyatw at gmail.com> wrote:

> Yes, I fully admit my weakness and the irony of discussing a solution
> right next to people breaking the rules. Like seemingly most people in the
> space, I have no spine and am more interested in discussing preventative
> measures than actually waking people up one-by-one. Kudos to those who
> routinely do the latter.
> Spinach, do you ever ask people to wake up or leave the space? Just trying
> to determine if I'm being criticized by someone who is more assertive than
> me or not.
> Jeffrey
> On Sun, May 11, 2014 at 7:33 AM, spinach williams <
> spinach.williams at gmail.com> wrote:
>> On May 11, 2014 7:07 AM, "Jeffrey Carl Faden" <jeffreyatw at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > Once members-only hours are reinstated, there's nothing that's stopping
>> associate and full members from exercising their power to remove
>> non-members from the space, just like they should have been doing the last
>> time this was attempted, and should he doing now with the "unvouched". But
>> an actual computer-controlled change in how the space operates would help
>> to reinforce that these rules are officially in effect.
>> isn't the space currently 24/7 members only? that power you talk about,
>> you could've exercized. why didn't you? that's the part of the whole system
>> that needs examining, fancy locks be damned.
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