[Noisebridge-discuss] Moar Laser Cutter Infos

Tue Nov 24 20:36:05 UTC 2015

I already posted a ton of pictures here:
http://s18.photobucket.com/user/Segasonicfan/library/NB%20Hardware%20Class?sort=3&page=1
as well as an image link to the PCB we need twice.  If someone wants to resize them, that's all you need for the manufacturer.  The model is MLE-40.
Personally I think if they want 400 for it that we should just get the used MLE-40 I posted for sale here (its 1500 OBO).  Too much is wrong with this unit still to justify dropping that kind of money.

-Zach
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On Tue, 11/24/15, Mitch Altman <maltman23 at hotmail.com> wrote:

 Subject: Re: [Noisebridge-discuss] Moar Laser Cutter Infos
 To: "Zach R" <organicunity at hotmail.com>, "Adam Munich" <adam at aperture.systems>, "NoiseBridge Discuss" <noisebridge-discuss at lists.noisebridge.net>
 Date: Tuesday, November 24, 2015, 6:15 AM

 If someone can send me
 (small-file-size) photos to identify our laser cutter to the
 Chinese manufacturer, then we may be able to get the boards
 for less, shipped direct from China.

 Best,

 Mitch.

 ----------------------------------------
 > From: organicunity at hotmail.com
 > To: adam at aperture.systems;
 noisebridge-discuss at lists.noisebridge.net
 > Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2015 09:03:16 +0000
 > Subject: Re: [Noisebridge-discuss] Moar
 Laser Cutter Infos
 >
 >
 Hey Adam,
 > Thanks so much for the reply.
 Goddamn that board is expensive - I'm not surprised it
 does more given all the ICs on it. Nuts, looks like we need
 to cough up $400 for that board then or get a new laser
 cutter :/ What a scam, I doubt that PCB costs>$25 to
 produce.
 > I second your thoughts on
 education. I've looked at your site as well as the
 manual and have been trying to learn more about the beast so
 that it gets taken care of properly.
 >
 > -Zach
 >
 >
 ________________________________________
 > From: noisebridge-discuss-bounces at lists.noisebridge.net
 <noisebridge-discuss-bounces at lists.noisebridge.net>
 on behalf of Adam <adam at aperture.systems>
 > Sent: Monday, November 23, 2015 12:16
 AM
 > To: Noisebridge
 >
 Subject: Re: [Noisebridge-discuss] Moar Laser Cutter
 Infos
 >
 > I have this
 model laser. It's on loan at sudo right now.
 >
 > The board isn't
 just a USB-Parallel converter. On my laser (R.3) the
 > board was a mixture of motor drivers, a
 few buffers and a CPLD doing
 > something
 somewhat intelligent. When it failed, I was able to have
 > full spectrum replace it with r.4 of their
 board for $400, which is
 > pretty
 identical, though they've done away with the DB25 port
 in favor
 > of direct to CPLD - USB.
 >
 > I have a guide on the
 use of these lasers here. http://hack.rit.edu/tools/fsl/
 >
 > I would not recommend
 hacked solutions over the FSL board, unless the
 > solution is well documented, on a
 dedicated computer, backed up, and
 >
 taught to a few NB chiefs. My time running RIT's
 hackerspace has
 > taught that lack of
 education is the #1 reason people don't use tools
 > like these, and when there's no one to
 teach, nothing will get done,
 > and that
 sometimes it really is better to just pay extra for
 > something that just works.
 >
 > -A
 > -^-^-^-^-^-
 > Adam
 Munich - Builder of wild things (and organizations)
 > Tel: +1-650-452-0554
 >
 > The key to mastering
 any skill is nothing more than passion and persistence.
 >
 >
 >
 On Sun, Nov 22, 2015 at 2:30 AM, Mitch Altman <maltman23 at hotmail.com>
 wrote:
 >> FYI: My friend Aqua
 (who's Chinese) called the company who actually makes
 the laser cutter (jnmydy.com is only a distributor), and
 they told her that they cannot sell us just the power
 Parallel to USB controller and main power motherboard PCBs
 separately, but they sell the "whole set" and some
 raw components. She will call be on Monday and find out how
 much the "whole set" costs.
 >>
 >>
 >> And, yeah, I'd still really like
 to get reimbursed for the laser tube I bought for
 Noisebridge for $237.37 last year.
 >>
 >>
 >> Best,
 >>
 >> Mitch.
 >>
 >>
 >>
 >>
 >>
 ________________________________
 >>> From: organicunity at hotmail.com
 >>> To: noisebridge-discuss at lists.noisebridge.net
 >>> Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2015 02:29:14
 +0000
 >>> Subject: Re:
 [Noisebridge-discuss] Moar Laser Cutter Infos
 >>>
 >>>
 >>> So looking through the NB discuss
 list history (and talking to myself
 >>> more here) there are actually a
 few more things the Laser Cutter
 >>> needs. From what I understand
 there is:
 >>>
 >>>
 >>> 1)
 Parallel> USB controller board needed (waiting for word
 from the
 >>> people at Full
 Spectrum Laser and the shop in China for a price quote -
 >>> anyone received a reply?) Also,
 Henner says he might be able to hack
 >>> this with Arduino
 >>>
 >>> 2)
 Water pump and one hose missing (according to Adam's
 email from the
 >>> Hackathon in
 July)
 >>>
 >>> 3) Air Pump maybe (haven't
 checked to see if we have this)
 >>>
 >>> 4)
 Calibration of mirrors and stuff (can someone volunteer to
 do this?
 >>> we have manuals for
 it, it's just tedious)
 >>>
 >>> 5) Minor wiring and screws install
 work (I volunteer to do this)
 >>>
 >>> 6) a
 Windows machine to run the software (I can donate one if
 needed)
 >>>
 >>> 7) Install software and key (I
 guess Jerrod has this info?)
 >>>
 >>>
 >>> Just
 trying to document the steps needed in one place here for
 >>> everyone. Finally, we need to pay
 Mitch back for the $237 he spent on
 >>> the new tube. Below is an old
 email with details from the thread here
 >>> "Laser cutter repair
 bounty"
 >>>
 >>>
 >>> Adam:
 "I tried fixing it at the stupid shit hackathon but I
 could not
 >>> find the water pump
 and the other rubber hose. There is otherwise
 >>> everything you need to get the
 laser cutter running."
 >>>
 >>>
 >>>
 Mitch: "Zach -- please see the email from Henner,
 copied below, for a
 >>> list of
 things that needs to be done. And please see the Doodle sent
 by
 >>> Rubin, copied below, to pick
 a time to meet to fix the lasercutter.
 >>> Everyone -- I paid for the laser
 tube when I was in China. I would very
 >>> much love to be paid back for it.
 It cost me: Laser tube: $120.37
 >>>
 shipping from Shenzhen to SF: $117.00 Total: $237.37 Would
 people be
 >>> kind enough to pitch
 in, and help collect for this? Thanks, Mitch."
 >>>
 >>>
 -------------------------------------- From: organicunity at hotmail.com
 >>> To: noisebridge-discuss at lists.noisebridge.net
 Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2015
 >>> 08:39:50
 +0000 Subject: Re: [Noisebridge-discuss] Laser cutter
 repair
 >>> bounty .ExternalClass P
 { } I already offered to help with this....I
 >>> thought Adam (and someone else)
 got it fixed recently. If someone will
 >>> give me the low down on what needs
 to be done I'm happy to work on it.
 >>> and hey, throwing money (and
 burritos) at poor techs like me definitely
 >>> can get shit done! -Zach From:
 >>> noisebridge-discuss-bounces at lists.noisebridge.net
 on behalf of Rubin
 >>> Abdi Sent:
 Saturday, July 11, 2015 3:54 PM To: Henner Zeller Cc:
 James
 >>> Sundquist; NB Discuss
 Subject: Re: [Noisebridge-discuss] Laser cutter
 >>> repair bounty Do you want to make
 the laser go? Fill out the fucking
 >>> Doodle... https://doodle.com/3rnzd5fy74kfwd9b On
 11 July 2015 at 14:41,
 >>> Henner
 Zeller wrote: I'd rather you guys organize some time
 where
 >>> everyone who wants to
 help has time (get creative, there are some
 >>> online
 find-free-time-slots-for-a-couple of people online. @rubin
 was
 >>> using one of these
 recently). Money won't get things done, chip in an
 >>> hour of your work. _That_ would
 help more getting this done. I am happy
 >>> to help, but being alone working
 on that will take weeks of time here
 >>> and there. What needs to be done,
 and with a few people, that would be
 >>> doable in an afternoon. - check if
 we have the water pump and air pump
 >>> in working condition. If not, get
 new ones. - Get a bucket of 5 Gallons
 >>> of distilled water. - Connect the
 laser tube to the high voltage power
 >>> supply (as far as I know, the new
 tube is already in the cutter)000 -
 >>> calibrate things, mirrors and
 stuff. - make a free space in the corner
 >>> of Noisebridge next to the
 windows, now full of DJ gear. - Find a table
 >>> to put it on permanently. -
 Prepare an outlet in the window where we
 >>> can connect the blower pipe. - Get
 the software installed somewhere (I
 >>> think Jarrod has a license key
 somewhere and we need a windows
 >>>
 machine). -h On 11 July 2015 at 14:31, jarrod hicks wrote: I
 too will
 >>> match that. On Jul 11,
 2015 12:32 PM, "James Sundquist" wrote: I will
 >>> give $20 to anyone who has the
 laser cutter restored and calibrated at
 >>> nb. --- Sent from Boxer | http://getboxer.com
 >>>
 >>>
 >>>
 >>>
 >>>
 >>>
 ________________________________
 >>> From: noisebridge-discuss-bounces at lists.noisebridge.net
 >>> <noisebridge-discuss-bounces at lists.noisebridge.net>
 on behalf of Zach R
 >>> <organicunity at hotmail.com>
 >>> Sent: Friday, November 20, 2015
 5:54 PM
 >>> To: NB Discuss; Eric
 Michaud
 >>> Subject: Re:
 [Noisebridge-discuss] Moar Laser Cutter Infos
 >>>
 >>>
 >>> OK so I took the laser cutter Main
 PCB home last night and did some
 >>> work on it. I believe I got it all
 fixed up now, with the proper +5v
 >>> and +24v LEDs lighting up now - it
 should be working 100% ! :D
 >>>
 >>> proof:
 >>>
 >>> http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b134/Segasonicfan/NB%20Hardware%20Class/20151120_172957_zpskt9g4iww.jpg
 >>>
 >>> http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b134/Segasonicfan/NB%20Hardware%20Class/20151120_172935_zpstz0a2oaj.jpg
 >>> <http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b134/Segasonicfan/NB%20Hardware%20Class/20151120_172957_zpskt9g4iww.jpg>
 >>>
 >>>
 >>> Now the only thing left (aside
 from me fixing some crappy wiring jobs,
 >>> installing the tube, and replacing
 screws and fuses) is the CONTROLLER
 >>> BOARD that handles Parallel>
 USB. Here is a link to it again:
 >>>
 >>> https://moderndevice.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/fse-controller-768x1024.jpg
 >>>
 >>>
 >>> Has anyone received a response
 from the manufacturer about this? Eric,
 >>> could you ask Full Spectrum Laser
 for the price cost for just this
 >>> board (I know they quoted $700 for
 both, but I have the larger one
 >>>
 working now). LMK.
 >>>
 >>>
 ________________________________
 >>> From: noisebridge-discuss-bounces at lists.noisebridge.net
 >>> <noisebridge-discuss-bounces at lists.noisebridge.net>
 on behalf of Zach R
 >>> <organicunity at hotmail.com>
 >>> Sent: Tuesday, November 3, 2015
 11:39 PM
 >>> To: NB Discuss
 >>> Subject: [Noisebridge-discuss]
 Moar Laser Cutter Infos
 >>>
 >>>
 >>> So I
 brought this up at the meeting tonight and then I did
 more
 >>> research. Found some more
 useful info.
 >>>
 >>>
 >>> model
 #: MLR-40
 >>>
 >>> 40w Full Spectrum Laser
 >>>
 >>>
 Manufacturer website: http://en.jnmydy.com/
 >>>
 >>>
 >>> And here are the pictures I
 took:
 >>>
 >>> http://s18.photobucket.com/user/Segasonicfan/library/NB%20Hardware%20Class?sort=3&page=1
 >>>
 >>> Here
 is the controller board we are missing:
 >>>
 >>> https://moderndevice.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/fse-controller-768x1024.jpg
 >>>
 >>> http://www.laserresale.com/?fa=app.view⁢=5966<https://us-mg4.mail.yahoo.com/compose?to=gwen246%40gmail.com>
 >>> https://moderndevice.com/news/full-spectrum-engineering-40w-hobby-laser/
 >>> http://wiki.lvl1.org/Full_Spectrum_Laser
 >>> http://www.therpf.com/showthread.php?t=140518
 >>>
 >>> https://fslaser.com/Manuals/FSL_40w_Hobby_Laser_Manual.pdf
 (manual)
 >>>
 >>>
 >>> There
 is a second hand one for $1500 we could raise money for.
 That
 >>> way we have this one for
 parts. That's one option.
 >>>
 >>> Im
 going to try emailing the manufacture to see what
 replacement costs
 >>> would be.
 >>>
 >>>
 >>> -Zach
 >>>
 >>>
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