[Noisebridge-discuss] Moar Laser Cutter Infos

Mitch Altman maltman23 at hotmail.com
Wed Nov 25 12:07:25 UTC 2015 

I heard back from my friend Aqua, who talked with the manufacturer for our laser.  They can sell us a new power supply (which me comes in its own enclosure).  But they can't sell us any PCBs.  Sorry. 

Best, 
Mitch. 

> Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2015 20:36:05 +0000
> From: organic_unity at yahoo.com
> To: organicunity at hotmail.com; adam at aperture.systems; noisebridge-discuss at lists.noisebridge.net; maltman23 at hotmail.com
> Subject: Re: [Noisebridge-discuss] Moar Laser Cutter Infos
> 
> I already posted a ton of pictures here:
> http://s18.photobucket.com/user/Segasonicfan/library/NB%20Hardware%20Class?sort=3&page=1
> as well as an image link to the PCB we need twice.  If someone wants to resize them, that's all you need for the manufacturer.  The model is MLE-40.
> Personally I think if they want 400 for it that we should just get the used MLE-40 I posted for sale here (its 1500 OBO).  Too much is wrong with this unit still to justify dropping that kind of money.
> 
> -Zach
> --------------------------------------------
> On Tue, 11/24/15, Mitch Altman <maltman23 at hotmail.com> wrote:
> 
>  Subject: Re: [Noisebridge-discuss] Moar Laser Cutter Infos
>  To: "Zach R" <organicunity at hotmail.com>, "Adam Munich" <adam at aperture.systems>, "NoiseBridge Discuss" <noisebridge-discuss at lists.noisebridge.net>
>  Date: Tuesday, November 24, 2015, 6:15 AM
>  
>  If someone can send me
>  (small-file-size) photos to identify our laser cutter to the
>  Chinese manufacturer, then we may be able to get the boards
>  for less, shipped direct from China.
>  
>  
>  Best,
>  
>  Mitch.
>  
>  
>  
>  ----------------------------------------
>  > From: organicunity at hotmail.com
>  > To: adam at aperture.systems;
>  noisebridge-discuss at lists.noisebridge.net
>  > Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2015 09:03:16 +0000
>  > Subject: Re: [Noisebridge-discuss] Moar
>  Laser Cutter Infos
>  >
>  >
>  Hey Adam,
>  > Thanks so much for the reply.
>  Goddamn that board is expensive - I'm not surprised it
>  does more given all the ICs on it. Nuts, looks like we need
>  to cough up $400 for that board then or get a new laser
>  cutter :/ What a scam, I doubt that PCB costs>$25 to
>  produce.
>  > I second your thoughts on
>  education. I've looked at your site as well as the
>  manual and have been trying to learn more about the beast so
>  that it gets taken care of properly.
>  >
>  > -Zach
>  >
>  >
>  ________________________________________
>  > From: noisebridge-discuss-bounces at lists.noisebridge.net
>  <noisebridge-discuss-bounces at lists.noisebridge.net>
>  on behalf of Adam <adam at aperture.systems>
>  > Sent: Monday, November 23, 2015 12:16
>  AM
>  > To: Noisebridge
>  >
>  Subject: Re: [Noisebridge-discuss] Moar Laser Cutter
>  Infos
>  >
>  > I have this
>  model laser. It's on loan at sudo right now.
>  >
>  > The board isn't
>  just a USB-Parallel converter. On my laser (R.3) the
>  > board was a mixture of motor drivers, a
>  few buffers and a CPLD doing
>  > something
>  somewhat intelligent. When it failed, I was able to have
>  > full spectrum replace it with r.4 of their
>  board for $400, which is
>  > pretty
>  identical, though they've done away with the DB25 port
>  in favor
>  > of direct to CPLD - USB.
>  >
>  > I have a guide on the
>  use of these lasers here. http://hack.rit.edu/tools/fsl/
>  >
>  > I would not recommend
>  hacked solutions over the FSL board, unless the
>  > solution is well documented, on a
>  dedicated computer, backed up, and
>  >
>  taught to a few NB chiefs. My time running RIT's
>  hackerspace has
>  > taught that lack of
>  education is the #1 reason people don't use tools
>  > like these, and when there's no one to
>  teach, nothing will get done,
>  > and that
>  sometimes it really is better to just pay extra for
>  > something that just works.
>  >
>  > -A
>  > -^-^-^-^-^-
>  > Adam
>  Munich - Builder of wild things (and organizations)
>  > Tel: +1-650-452-0554
>  >
>  > The key to mastering
>  any skill is nothing more than passion and persistence.
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  On Sun, Nov 22, 2015 at 2:30 AM, Mitch Altman <maltman23 at hotmail.com>
>  wrote:
>  >> FYI: My friend Aqua
>  (who's Chinese) called the company who actually makes
>  the laser cutter (jnmydy.com is only a distributor), and
>  they told her that they cannot sell us just the power
>  Parallel to USB controller and main power motherboard PCBs
>  separately, but they sell the "whole set" and some
>  raw components. She will call be on Monday and find out how
>  much the "whole set" costs.
>  >>
>  >>
>  >> And, yeah, I'd still really like
>  to get reimbursed for the laser tube I bought for
>  Noisebridge for $237.37 last year.
>  >>
>  >>
>  >> Best,
>  >>
>  >> Mitch.
>  >>
>  >>
>  >>
>  >>
>  >>
>  ________________________________
>  >>> From: organicunity at hotmail.com
>  >>> To: noisebridge-discuss at lists.noisebridge.net
>  >>> Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2015 02:29:14
>  +0000
>  >>> Subject: Re:
>  [Noisebridge-discuss] Moar Laser Cutter Infos
>  >>>
>  >>>
>  >>> So looking through the NB discuss
>  list history (and talking to myself
>  >>> more here) there are actually a
>  few more things the Laser Cutter
>  >>> needs. From what I understand
>  there is:
>  >>>
>  >>>
>  >>> 1)
>  Parallel> USB controller board needed (waiting for word
>  from the
>  >>> people at Full
>  Spectrum Laser and the shop in China for a price quote -
>  >>> anyone received a reply?) Also,
>  Henner says he might be able to hack
>  >>> this with Arduino
>  >>>
>  >>> 2)
>  Water pump and one hose missing (according to Adam's
>  email from the
>  >>> Hackathon in
>  July)
>  >>>
>  >>> 3) Air Pump maybe (haven't
>  checked to see if we have this)
>  >>>
>  >>> 4)
>  Calibration of mirrors and stuff (can someone volunteer to
>  do this?
>  >>> we have manuals for
>  it, it's just tedious)
>  >>>
>  >>> 5) Minor wiring and screws install
>  work (I volunteer to do this)
>  >>>
>  >>> 6) a
>  Windows machine to run the software (I can donate one if
>  needed)
>  >>>
>  >>> 7) Install software and key (I
>  guess Jerrod has this info?)
>  >>>
>  >>>
>  >>> Just
>  trying to document the steps needed in one place here for
>  >>> everyone. Finally, we need to pay
>  Mitch back for the $237 he spent on
>  >>> the new tube. Below is an old
>  email with details from the thread here
>  >>> "Laser cutter repair
>  bounty"
>  >>>
>  >>>
>  >>> Adam:
>  "I tried fixing it at the stupid shit hackathon but I
>  could not
>  >>> find the water pump
>  and the other rubber hose. There is otherwise
>  >>> everything you need to get the
>  laser cutter running."
>  >>>
>  >>>
>  >>>
>  Mitch: "Zach -- please see the email from Henner,
>  copied below, for a
>  >>> list of
>  things that needs to be done. And please see the Doodle sent
>  by
>  >>> Rubin, copied below, to pick
>  a time to meet to fix the lasercutter.
>  >>> Everyone -- I paid for the laser
>  tube when I was in China. I would very
>  >>> much love to be paid back for it.
>  It cost me: Laser tube: $120.37
>  >>>
>  shipping from Shenzhen to SF: $117.00 Total: $237.37 Would
>  people be
>  >>> kind enough to pitch
>  in, and help collect for this? Thanks, Mitch."
>  >>>
>  >>>
>  -------------------------------------- From: organicunity at hotmail.com
>  >>> To: noisebridge-discuss at lists.noisebridge.net
>  Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2015
>  >>> 08:39:50
>  +0000 Subject: Re: [Noisebridge-discuss] Laser cutter
>  repair
>  >>> bounty .ExternalClass P
>  { } I already offered to help with this....I
>  >>> thought Adam (and someone else)
>  got it fixed recently. If someone will
>  >>> give me the low down on what needs
>  to be done I'm happy to work on it.
>  >>> and hey, throwing money (and
>  burritos) at poor techs like me definitely
>  >>> can get shit done! -Zach From:
>  >>> noisebridge-discuss-bounces at lists.noisebridge.net
>  on behalf of Rubin
>  >>> Abdi Sent:
>  Saturday, July 11, 2015 3:54 PM To: Henner Zeller Cc:
>  James
>  >>> Sundquist; NB Discuss
>  Subject: Re: [Noisebridge-discuss] Laser cutter
>  >>> repair bounty Do you want to make
>  the laser go? Fill out the fucking
>  >>> Doodle... https://doodle.com/3rnzd5fy74kfwd9b On
>  11 July 2015 at 14:41,
>  >>> Henner
>  Zeller wrote: I'd rather you guys organize some time
>  where
>  >>> everyone who wants to
>  help has time (get creative, there are some
>  >>> online
>  find-free-time-slots-for-a-couple of people online. @rubin
>  was
>  >>> using one of these
>  recently). Money won't get things done, chip in an
>  >>> hour of your work. _That_ would
>  help more getting this done. I am happy
>  >>> to help, but being alone working
>  on that will take weeks of time here
>  >>> and there. What needs to be done,
>  and with a few people, that would be
>  >>> doable in an afternoon. - check if
>  we have the water pump and air pump
>  >>> in working condition. If not, get
>  new ones. - Get a bucket of 5 Gallons
>  >>> of distilled water. - Connect the
>  laser tube to the high voltage power
>  >>> supply (as far as I know, the new
>  tube is already in the cutter)000 -
>  >>> calibrate things, mirrors and
>  stuff. - make a free space in the corner
>  >>> of Noisebridge next to the
>  windows, now full of DJ gear. - Find a table
>  >>> to put it on permanently. -
>  Prepare an outlet in the window where we
>  >>> can connect the blower pipe. - Get
>  the software installed somewhere (I
>  >>> think Jarrod has a license key
>  somewhere and we need a windows
>  >>>
>  machine). -h On 11 July 2015 at 14:31, jarrod hicks wrote: I
>  too will
>  >>> match that. On Jul 11,
>  2015 12:32 PM, "James Sundquist" wrote: I will
>  >>> give $20 to anyone who has the
>  laser cutter restored and calibrated at
>  >>> nb. --- Sent from Boxer | http://getboxer.com
>  >>>
>  >>>
>  >>>
>  >>>
>  >>>
>  >>>
>  ________________________________
>  >>> From: noisebridge-discuss-bounces at lists.noisebridge.net
>  >>> <noisebridge-discuss-bounces at lists.noisebridge.net>
>  on behalf of Zach R
>  >>> <organicunity at hotmail.com>
>  >>> Sent: Friday, November 20, 2015
>  5:54 PM
>  >>> To: NB Discuss; Eric
>  Michaud
>  >>> Subject: Re:
>  [Noisebridge-discuss] Moar Laser Cutter Infos
>  >>>
>  >>>
>  >>> OK so I took the laser cutter Main
>  PCB home last night and did some
>  >>> work on it. I believe I got it all
>  fixed up now, with the proper +5v
>  >>> and +24v LEDs lighting up now - it
>  should be working 100% ! :D
>  >>>
>  >>> proof:
>  >>>
>  >>> http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b134/Segasonicfan/NB%20Hardware%20Class/20151120_172957_zpskt9g4iww.jpg
>  >>>
>  >>> http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b134/Segasonicfan/NB%20Hardware%20Class/20151120_172935_zpstz0a2oaj.jpg
>  >>> <http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b134/Segasonicfan/NB%20Hardware%20Class/20151120_172957_zpskt9g4iww.jpg>
>  >>>
>  >>>
>  >>> Now the only thing left (aside
>  from me fixing some crappy wiring jobs,
>  >>> installing the tube, and replacing
>  screws and fuses) is the CONTROLLER
>  >>> BOARD that handles Parallel>
>  USB. Here is a link to it again:
>  >>>
>  >>> https://moderndevice.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/fse-controller-768x1024.jpg
>  >>>
>  >>>
>  >>> Has anyone received a response
>  from the manufacturer about this? Eric,
>  >>> could you ask Full Spectrum Laser
>  for the price cost for just this
>  >>> board (I know they quoted $700 for
>  both, but I have the larger one
>  >>>
>  working now). LMK.
>  >>>
>  >>>
>  ________________________________
>  >>> From: noisebridge-discuss-bounces at lists.noisebridge.net
>  >>> <noisebridge-discuss-bounces at lists.noisebridge.net>
>  on behalf of Zach R
>  >>> <organicunity at hotmail.com>
>  >>> Sent: Tuesday, November 3, 2015
>  11:39 PM
>  >>> To: NB Discuss
>  >>> Subject: [Noisebridge-discuss]
>  Moar Laser Cutter Infos
>  >>>
>  >>>
>  >>> So I
>  brought this up at the meeting tonight and then I did
>  more
>  >>> research. Found some more
>  useful info.
>  >>>
>  >>>
>  >>> model
>  #: MLR-40
>  >>>
>  >>> 40w Full Spectrum Laser
>  >>>
>  >>>
>  Manufacturer website: http://en.jnmydy.com/
>  >>>
>  >>>
>  >>> And here are the pictures I
>  took:
>  >>>
>  >>> http://s18.photobucket.com/user/Segasonicfan/library/NB%20Hardware%20Class?sort=3&page=1
>  >>>
>  >>> Here
>  is the controller board we are missing:
>  >>>
>  >>> https://moderndevice.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/fse-controller-768x1024.jpg
>  >>>
>  >>> http://www.laserresale.com/?fa=app.view⁢=5966<https://us-mg4.mail.yahoo.com/compose?to=gwen246%40gmail.com>
>  >>> https://moderndevice.com/news/full-spectrum-engineering-40w-hobby-laser/
>  >>> http://wiki.lvl1.org/Full_Spectrum_Laser
>  >>> http://www.therpf.com/showthread.php?t=140518
>  >>>
>  >>> https://fslaser.com/Manuals/FSL_40w_Hobby_Laser_Manual.pdf
>  (manual)
>  >>>
>  >>>
>  >>> There
>  is a second hand one for $1500 we could raise money for.
>  That
>  >>> way we have this one for
>  parts. That's one option.
>  >>>
>  >>> Im
>  going to try emailing the manufacture to see what
>  replacement costs
>  >>> would be.
>  >>>
>  >>>
>  >>> -Zach
>  >>>
>  >>>
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