[Noisebridge-discuss] front page translation to spanish

Mon Feb 1 22:37:47 UTC 2016

I don't see this as bikeshedding, but at this point this needs to be spun
off noisebridge discuss into a working group so we don't all have to be
exposed to it.  Please use the fractal working group model
<https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/FractalWorkingGroup> if you wish to. Note
that the fractal working group page needs updated. Anyone can participate
in a fractal working group, it has nothing to do with membership at all.

Best,

Trent Robbins
Tau Informatics LLC
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trent at tauinformatics.com
@trentrobbins

On Mon, Feb 1, 2016 at 2:29 PM, Rubin Abdi <rubin at starset.net> wrote:

> Here are some wiki pages...
>
> https://noisebridge.net/wiki/It's_a_Wiki
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_of_triviality
>
>
> On 1 February 2016 at 14:23, Travis Briggs <audiodude at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> A brief search turns up Extension:Translate <
>> https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Translate> which requires
>> MediaWiki 1.24. From this page <
>> https://noisebridge.net/wiki/Special:Version>, it looks like Noisebridge
>> is on 1.19.1
>>
>> The cool part about that extension is that it supports "auto" translation
>> of pages by integrating with an online translation service. It also has a
>> web interface where people could translate pages, as well as gettext export
>> for offline translation, which could be used to build a custom workflow.
>>
>> I think if you really want to translate the Noisebridge website, this is
>> what you want.
>>
>> -Travis
>>
>> On 1 February 2016 at 14:09, Jeffrey Carl Faden <jeffreyatw at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Making Noisebridge into an “app” rather than a wiki has been discussed
>>> before and no one has amassed the appropriate amount of effort or support
>>> to make it a reality. I personally believe that the wiki ain’t broke, we
>>> don’t need to fix it, and the path forward should simply be to upgrade it
>>> to a version of MediaWiki that supports i18n.
>>>
>>> Jeffrey
>>>
>>> > On Feb 1, 2016, at 1:59 PM, Rob M <veryprofessionalguy at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > What's the plan for the frontpage revamp?  I learned earlier this
>>> morning that it's somehow done in mediawiki (didn't know that was a
>>> thing).  I was going to recommend working on translations for the front-end
>>> because it's more stable than the typical 'manual info' that get's updated
>>> in noisebridge's wiki, but I guess the whole thing is a wiki.  Have people
>>> discussed making a more solidified 'app' of our landing page?
>>> >
>>> > If we have the content somewhere on github, we'll still have write
>>> access, it's just more involved getting PRs into master, and doing code
>>> rollouts/ content updates.
>>> >
>>> > On 02/01/2016 01:54 PM, Rubin Abdi wrote:
>>> >> Considering we've got a todo item to do a revamp/clean up of the
>>> front page and all linked to pages, I would advise holding off on hiring
>>> translations services until that work is done.
>>> >>
>>> >> On 1 February 2016 at 09:49, Mitch Altman <maltman23 at hotmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> >> Aweseome!
>>> >>
>>> >> If you want to make other languages happen on the Noisebridge wiki,
>>> while being non-disruptive to the usability of the site, I'd be way into
>>> it.  You'll need to coordinate with Jeffrey and others, assuming they're
>>> also into it.
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> Date: Sun, 31 Jan 2016 23:44:16 -0800
>>> >> Subject: Re: [Noisebridge-discuss] front page translation to spanish
>>> >> From: dmhomee at gmail.com
>>> >> To: maltman23 at hotmail.com
>>> >> CC: jeffreyatw at gmail.com; noisebridge-discuss at lists.noisebridge.net
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> Omg it would be for iOS development!
>>> >>
>>> >> On that topic, I think it would be pretty cool to get chinese and
>>> vietnamese translation as well....
>>> >>
>>> >> On Sun, Jan 31, 2016 at 6:18 PM, Mitch Altman <maltman23 at hotmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> >> It would be great to get more Hispanic people to become part of our
>>> community.
>>> >>
>>> >> Praveen -- using Noisebridge for meetups is way cool, as long as it
>>> is about why Noisebridge exists, which is hacking:  art, craft, tech,
>>> science, making things, fixing things, workshops and classes as related to
>>> the above, politics and society as related to the above.
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> Date: Sun, 31 Jan 2016 15:54:17 -0800
>>> >> From: dmhomee at gmail.com
>>> >> To: jeffreyatw at gmail.com
>>> >> CC: noisebridge-discuss at lists.noisebridge.net
>>> >> Subject: Re: [Noisebridge-discuss] front page translation to spanish
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> Yes, it is a good use of time.  Getting the initial translation will
>>> provide for a template, and it is easier to update over time.  It will
>>> encourage more spanish speakers at the space, and that in turn will help
>>> with maintenance.
>>> >>
>>> >> I may be starting work with immigrant students at city college soon,
>>> and I'd like to use noisebridge for a meet ups.
>>> >>
>>> >> I /really/ don't like machine translation  a) it's shitty for
>>> anything more than a sentence.  b) a human touch is just better!
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> On Sun, Jan 31, 2016 at 3:43 PM, Jeffrey Carl Faden <
>>> jeffreyatw at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >> Is that really a good use of time?
>>> >>
>>> >> If you have a separate Spanish front page, what happens if someone
>>> edits the English one? Then you have out-of-date information.
>>> >>
>>> >> That, or you’re asking for someone to translate all of their edits.
>>> >>
>>> >> I think a better approach would be to make sure the copy on the pages
>>> you’re interested in internationalizing still read well when sent through
>>> an online translator. Unless you have some sort of deep-seated resentment
>>> against Google’s free services, I don’t see why Google Translate is such a
>>> bad idea for a page with non-colloquial English phrasing.
>>> >>
>>> >> Jeffrey
>>> >>
>>> >> > On Jan 31, 2016, at 3:15 PM, Praveen Sinha <dmhomee at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Yo Noisebridge,
>>> >> >
>>> >> > One of the biggest irks of accessibility to me was the lack of
>>> spanish language documents while situated in a latino neighborhood.  In
>>> specific, I'm thinking about hiring someone to translate our front wiki
>>> page, and maybe some supporting docs.... But I think the front page is
>>> locked down right now.  Anyone know who I should to talk to get such an
>>> initiative going?
>>> >> >
>>> >> > con amor,
>>> >> > Praveen
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