[Noisebridge-discuss] Noisebridge Meeting 10/10/2017
jim
jim at well.com
Thu Oct 12 19:45:11 UTC 2017
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On 10/12/2017 07:06 PM, Trent Robbins wrote:
> I feel that paying people for work they do on Noisebridge
> infrastructure runs counter to what Noisebridge is.
>
> I wanted to write something complex but this webpage has a far better
> collection of thoughts than I could come up with on my own:
> https://communitywiki.org/wiki/DoOcracy
>
> Trent
>
>
>
> On Thu, Oct 12, 2017 at 11:33 AM, John Shutt <john.d.shutt at gmail.com
> <mailto:john.d.shutt at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> X-post from #finance-wg on Slack:
>
> I would support spending a certain amount of money for parts for
> the elevator, but share others' concerns about anyone getting paid
> for their time from the Noisebridge bank account. There are lots
> of critical tasks in addition to fixing the elevator: managing
> finances, cleaning trash, running the access control and server
> systems, leading tours, 86-ing hazardous people, etc. We can't pay
> for all of the work that needs to be done to keep the space
> running. Legally it's the landlord's responsibility to keep the
> elevator working, but they've done a very poor job and I recognize
> that DIY fixes will be faster. Even though we're spending money on
> a building we don't own, it's worth it to make the space
> accessible. As for a separate elevator fund, I think it would be
> best if there was a separate fundraising push or donation to make
> it happen, which was the case with the broadcast fund and
> equipment fund, but if it's less than $400 per year for parts I
> don't think spending from the general f
> und is a big deal.
>
> Adding to the Slack post: I don't think $400 should necessarily be
> a cap on our budget for parts for the elevator, if it needs more
> than that. And I would encourage anyone interested in doing so to
> look into whether we can legally pay a licensed professional to
> fix the elevator and deduct the cost from our rent to the landlord.
>
> I also think it would be excellent for people to donate money to
> Zach through PayPal for his work on the elevator, outside of
> Noisebridge funds. I donated what I could, which is unfortunately
> not much right now. I'm all for people being paid for their work,
> but know that Noisebridge itself can't afford to pay for all the
> critical work that has to be done to keep the space operating.
>
> John
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Oct 11, 2017, at 3:14 AM, Zach R <organicunity at hotmail.com
> <mailto:organicunity at hotmail.com>> wrote:
> >
> > Thanks for the meeting notes and facilitation Naomi.
> >
> > Here is a follow-up email as requested. I brought this item up
> as a "small-c" item 2 weeks ago at the Noisebridge meeting. I was
> told if nothing was done in 2 weeks that I should bring it up as a
> formal consensus item. So here it is. The proposed consensus item
> is as follows:
> >
> > I request that we establish an Elevator Repair Fund at
> Noisebridge. This fund could be as modest or ambitious as people
> like, but I believe a minimum of $400 per annual year would do a
> great deal to benefit the space.
> >
> > The elevator is necessary for those that use Noisebridge with
> mobility aids (such as wheelchairs), for people with non-visible
> disabilities (elderly, diabetes, MS, fibro, etc.), for incoming
> large furniture and donations, and for taking out the regular trash.
> >
> > As many know, the elevator was broken for a full 2 months
> recently. Unlike broken tools or equipment, this made the space
> completely inaccessible for members in the community. I think it
> would be most excellent to prevent this in the future by
> establishing a modest fund whereby we could hire people, obtain
> necessary parts and supplies, and keep this "must need" basic
> access to the space.
> >
> > Note: the elevator still needs a lot of work to be fully safe
> and operational. There is machine work to fix the broken front
> gate, a missing call light downstairs, a call box repair, floor
> switch detection issues, and other things all documented on the
> elevator wiki.
> >
> > Looking forward to hearing input from the community. Hopefully
> we can all agree that this would be a positive benefit to Noisebridge.
> > .
> > -Zach
> >
> >
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> [noisebridge-discuss-bounces at lists.noisebridge.net
> <mailto:noisebridge-discuss-bounces at lists.noisebridge.net>] on
> behalf of Naomi Most [pnaomi at gmail.com <mailto:pnaomi at gmail.com>]
> > Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2017 10:02 PM
> > To: Noisebridge Discuss
> > Subject: [Noisebridge-discuss] Noisebridge Meeting 10/10/2017
> >
> > Greetings, NB(D),
> >
> > A meeting occurred!
> >
> > Notably, we have a Real Live Consensus Item from Zach concerning
> the idea of setting up an officially set-aside Elevator Repair Fund.
> >
> > The argument revolves around the idea that the Elevator is a
> "must have" whereas stuff in the general equipment fund usually
> falls into the category of "it would be cool if".
> >
> > Zach should post a followup to this email to make his proposal
> more concrete.
> >
> > https://noisebridge.net/wiki/Meeting_Notes_2017_10_10
> <https://noisebridge.net/wiki/Meeting_Notes_2017_10_10>
> >
> >
> > TLDR what happened at the meeting:
> >
> > * Announcements: Haskell Class starting Oct 18th (every 1st
> and 3rd Wednesday). Cryptobuilders workshop every 2nd and 4th
> Wednesday.
> > * Finances: ???
> > * New members: nope but we should contact Merlin and let her
> know she's at 4 weeks!
> > * New philanthropists: nope
> > * Consensus Items: Elevator Repair Fund
> > * Discussion Items: people lost interest and went to the
> Internet Archive at this point.
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Naomi Theora Most
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