[Noisebridge-discuss] Noisebridge Meeting 10/10/2017

kprichard kprichard at gmail.com
Thu Oct 12 23:19:59 UTC 2017

If the landlord has sole responsibility for keeping the elevator running,
under the lease, consider sending them a bill for the parts/labor.  Zach,
Henner & Co did the thing, where the landlord's people were unable.

On Thu, Oct 12, 2017 at 3:20 PM, jim <jim at well.com> wrote:

> seems right to me
> On 10/12/2017 10:02 PM, Revolt wrote:
>> Sending replies from my other emails since my hotmail address is
>> bouncing on the discuss (I cannot figure out who NB Discuss Admin is,
>> can someone put me into contact with them?)
>> ------
>> John makes some good points about re: ownership of building.  The
>> landlord should pay, but they are not going to and the laws do not
>> make it easy for us to "force" them.  This just isn't going to happen,
>> or it would have happened a long time ago.  Like most all things at
>> NB, this issue needs to be solved collectively by members of the
>> community.
>> so we should be judicious in how we spend general fund money on the
>>> elevator.>
>> Agreed.  That is why I am suggesting a modest $400/year or less budget
>> for repairs
>> our lease ends next year>
>> This is good to know, I wasn't aware of this.
>> I would like to avoid investing thousands more into common area repairs>
>> I don't see how this applies.  $400/year or less would not amount to
>> spending anywhere near thousands of dollars if we move in 1 year...
>> -Zach
>> ---
>> Here's what I sent earlier today (bounced from list so far):
>> RE: [Noisebridge-discuss] Noisebridge Meeting 10/10/2017
>> Zach R
>> jim (jim at well.com);noisebridge-discuss at lists.noisebridge.net
>> I think Trent makes a good point about member work at NB not being
>> something funds are for.  i.e. the Treasure is a good example of
>> something necessary for NB to function as well.
>> To clarify, could we agree to at least one  or both of the following
>> uses of an Elevator Fund?
>> 1) to hire /outside/ professional help with elevator repair (from a
>> private company or union that would issue a receipt)
>> 2) to purchase parts for the elevator (with receipts)
>> I understand the perspective of fundraising, but this requires work
>> and I have tried this already appealing to lots of people with
>> literally zero results.  When something as necessary as the elevator
>> is broken it shouldn't require months of fundraising efforts to get
>> basic funds to make it run again...
>> The landlord hasn't just done a poor job, they haven't done a job at
>> all.  The elevator would still be broken if myself and others hadn't
>> spent the hours repairing it.  This was hard to do with my
>> disabilities and I was not able to attempt it for months.  I had to
>> injure myself and take the full initiative on this, no one else setup
>> time to repair it.  This situation was unexcellent and I am trying to
>> avoid it in the future not if, but /when/ the elevator breaks again.
>> Lastly, we have NB funds put aside for things less crucial than the
>> elevator.  It seems reasonable to have a small fund for this.  It
>> could be literally any amount.  I thought $400/year was a reasonable
>> place to start the conversation.
>> -Zach
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