[Rack] Ideas for the network rebuild

[Casey Callendrello]

Thanks, Rubin, for writing all of this up. My personal opinion is this:

1. Redundancy is overrated. This is a hackerspace, not a data center. If the tubes are down for a bit, so be it.

2. I love sonic so much but copper just sucks. There is too little bandwidth and the line is a pain.

3. If we really need redundant connections, we should try SFLan.

If folks wanna keep sonic, that's cool. It doesn't matter much, really.



> Am Sep 2, 2014 um 19:38 schrieb Jonathan Lassoff <jof at thejof.com>:
> 
> I think that's a pretty good view of the existing built-in options.
> 
> The basement copper is so lulzy. If I'm not mistaken, there is a
> Cat5-y segment hanging down from the DJ Booth to a basement window
> grille, where it dips inside and is stapled along an ~east-west rafter
> to a little junction box, where it's re-terminated to more cat5 and
> onward to the old PacBell MPOE near the grocer in the basement.
> I haven't seen it myself, but lore from Dr. Jesus is that it's a
> "classic" 3/8" screw-down post.
> The whole point of that junction box was to eventually run power over
> some extra Cat5 pairs and colo the modem in the basement for increased
> bit flow.
> I don't think it's going to make a huge difference, and given how we
> can't go to the basement anymore, it makes sense to keep upstairs.
> 
> I'd like to see Sonic stay around if possible.
> 
> There are some more APs up on Twin Peaks since the last time I setup
> st01-noisebridge-sfo. It's probably worth rescanning and seeing what
> can be reached.
> 
>> On Tue, Sep 2, 2014 at 7:10 PM, Rubin Abdi <rubin at starset.net> wrote:
>> Thanks for doing that Casey.
>> 
>> Jonathan Lassoff wrote on 2014-09-02 18:57:
>>> How can I get at biketrailer (love this new name!) from remote?
>>> Can I SSH into the old Sonic IP as vyatta? Nothing seems to be
>>> listening on tcp/22 or tcp/2222.
>> 
>> The Sonic link is still down, that is something we should have more of a
>> discussion about. Our options are to keep Sonic or get rid of it.
>> 
>> Keeping Sonic Pros:
>> * Sonic is good and wholesome and giving them our money is great
>> * Sonic is good about support
>> * We already have static addresses through them
>> * There's a good chance if someone with an official title from
>> Noisebridge calls them and declares that we're a 501c3, they'll give us
>> a discount on our bill
>> * It's great to have fail over for when Monkeybrains goes down
>> 
>> Keeping Sonic Cons:
>> * A few people need to spend most of a day running new cable down to the
>> basement
>> * We are spending money on the internet connection
>> 
>> Getting Rid of Sonic and only depending on Monkeybrains Pros:
>> * We don't have to deal with running ethernet down into the basement
>> * We would be saving some money form not paying for the Sonic link
>> 
>> Getting Rid of Sonic and only depending on Monkeybrains Cons:
>> * Needing to pay more money to Monkeybrains for a couple static IPs
>> * Monkeybrains is a flakier link than Sonic
>> * We would have no fail over when Sonic goes down
>> * Monkeybrains' support can also at time be flaky and hard to get ahold of
>> 
>> Does that sum most of it up?
>> 
>> --
>> Rubin
>> rubin at starset.net
>>