[Noisebridge-congress] Shuttle The Fuck Up

Fri Aug 7 16:42:32 UTC 2015

Sorry I wasn't clear.

This shuttle would only be for Gransee -> camp.  It's 2.5 hours round-trip 
to Berlin, which is very expensive considering gas is $5-6/gallon here. 
Not to mention a huge waste of time.

-ben

On Fri, 7 Aug 2015, Ben Kochie wrote:

> I'm borrowing a car from a coworker (who is also going up to camp).  I can 
> not drive it, but we have a few people who can.  We can provide an on-demand 
> shuttle if necessary.  It's a VW polo, so it's not super high capacity, but 
> should be enough to get 3 people to camp at a time.
>
> -ben
>
> On Fri, 7 Aug 2015, Casey Callendrello wrote:
>
>> It's very good that Orga is running these shuttle buses. I've actually done 
>> some cycling up by
>> the Ziegeleipark, and it is definitely quite empty out there.
>> 
>> I plan to pick a time on Wednesday that has a few people already, sign up 
>> for that shuttle, and
>> go to camp. If somehow that fails, I'll just get a taxi, but I speak 
>> German. If you want to
>> ride with, let me know.
>> 
>> As for Zehdenick, it's a one-stoplight town. I almost got stranded there 
>> because the tiny train
>> only had room for 3 bikes. We gaijin-smashed our way on somehow.
>> 
>> 
>> On 8/7/15 3:46 AM, Mitch Altman wrote:
>>       Sven figured out the best routes for public transit from Berlin to 
>> Camp -- 90
>>       minutes:
>>       http://guckes.net/camp/
>>
>>        
>> 
>> _______________________________________________________________________________________________
>>       From: rubin at starset.net
>>       Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2015 10:29:14 +0200
>>       To: congress at lists.noisebridge.net
>>       Subject: Re: [Noisebridge-congress] Shuttle The Fuck Up
>>
>>       There was also this blog post about shuttles from Berlin...
>> https://events.ccc.de/2015/08/06/shuttle/
>> 
>> https://events.ccc.de/camp/2015/wiki/Location#Additional_Shuttles_from.2Fto_Berlin
>> 
>> One thing I'd like to remind folks is that once you start wandering out of 
>> Berlin, the
>> number of English speakers drastically drops. People still tend to be 
>> friendly, but will
>> get annoyed enough to ignore you if you continue to try to speak in English 
>> to them and
>> they've made it clear that isn't something they're into. So if you do opt 
>> to grab one of
>> the actually local municipal buses, be sure you've got an German speaker 
>> with you who can
>> call to make the reservation and also be your spirit animal riding it.
>> 
>> Additionally the local buses are more like a minivan and can only fit 8 
>> people.
>> 
>> 
>> On 7 August 2015 at 09:00, Christoph Maier <christoph.maier at ieee.org> 
>> wrote:
>>       reiseauskunft.bahn.de says:
>>       Zehdenick Bahnhof Mi, 12.08.15 ab 19:00   Bus 838 Bus Richtung: 
>> Tornow
>>       Altes Schloß, Fürstenberg (Havel)
>>       Rufbus, Tel. (03306) 2307 Anmeldung mind. 90 Min. vor Fahrtantritt. ,
>>       keine Fahrradbeförderung möglich Mildenberg Ziegeleipark, Zehdenick
>>       Mi, 12.08.15 an 19:06
>>
>>       that the bus from Zehdenick station to Mildenberg Ziegeleipark is
>>       on-demand and must be scheduled at least 90 minutes before using it.
>>       This is still regular public transportation.
>>
>>       On Thu, Aug 6, 2015 at 11:04 PM, Ronald Miloh Alexander
>>       <froggytoad at gmail.com> wrote:
>>       > On Thu, Aug 06, 2015 at 08:28:10PM -0700, lilia wrote:
>>       >> There's a big table here for shuttle signups but not a lot of 
>> details:
>>       >> 
>> https://events.ccc.de/camp/2015/wiki/Location#Shuttles_from.2Fto_Gransee
>>       >>
>>       >> Does anybody know about this service from previous years? Is this 
>> distinct
>>       >> from the public bus service? If I increment the appropriate 
>> counter, will
>>       >> there magically be a ride waiting for me? Is it cost money? 
>> Reliable? Or
>>       >> like wtf?
>>       >
>>       > I think the shuttles you write of are free for campers and 
>> orga-run.
>>       > German reliability index is high. There is also a local region bus,
>>       > 854, that runs a few times a day and includes a stop 'Mildenberg,
>>       > Ziegelpark' on its route. This is mentioned in the notes following 
>> the
>>       > table. PDF WARN
>>       >
>>       http://www.ovg-online.de/fileadmin/downloads/Fahrplandaten/aktuelle_Fahrplaene/Linie_854.pdf
>>       >
>>       > I got acquainted with Gransee Banhoff: https://goo.gl/maps/dEDj6
>>       > Notice train/bus transit options from this station include 'RE5'.
>>       > Still can't understand why shuttles aren't run from Zehdenick, it 
>> must
>>       > be because train frequency is lower to that station but it still
>>       > looked hourly (in schedule) to me. Perhaps the train operates fewer
>>       > hours for week to that town
>>       >
>>       > I didn't shuttle before when the camp was in Finowfurt -- but 
>> Gransee
>>       > is 12km from site, this looks like an orga run shuttle timed to the
>>       > arrival of the frequent (hourly?) Berlin/Potsdamer platz 'RE5' 
>> train
>>       > in Gransee.
>>       >
>>       > For arrival on the 11th and 12th, it looks like RE 4358 at 13:26 is
>>       > winning.
>>       >
>>       > Perhaps Mitch knows more about this?
>>       >
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