[Noisebridge-discuss] A potential space - the No Starch Press building (and how we can handle voting)

[Al Billings]

You know, I don't care about the personal issues that anyone has with 
anyone else but when someone raises a bunch of red flags and they are 
not addressed, I'm probably not going to hand cash or resources to 
someone to hold until they are.

I don't know if what Marc says is true (or what you say, for that 
matter). I don't personally care that much unless it affects the group. 
The drama of other people is not my business. That said, I'm going to be 
pretty gun-shy if and when we get to the point of people hanging over 
cash or signing names on things.

 So, this probably needs to be resolved unless I'm entirely alone in 
this. The other option is for people to recuse themselves from certain 
positions, which avoids a need for resolution.

Al

ryan wrote:
>> basically i tried to make this seem less acriminous by saying "i'm
>> excited about his involvement" i just wanted to head off any control of
>> domains or internet by ryan who has abused this sort of thing in the past!
>>     
>
> Well, for those who don't know, Marc and a couple other people have
> stalked me and created drama like this when given the opportunity.
>
> I rely on people's common sense to realize that the problem is the
> person who asks you to judge someone you just met based on some 
> drama stories they can't wait to tell you about. 
>
> I also rely on people's common sense to see that my on-going, core
> involvement in Indymedia is a testament to the credibility of Marc's
> wild accusations. For over 8 years, a group I helped found (Linefeed) 
> and I work with and host on our servers dozens of IMC's from all over 
> Latin America, Europe, the Middle East and the US. My involvement is
> open and transparent for anyone to see. So many people know me and 
> trust me within Indymedia, the BS from Marc and my other fans isn't 
> really tolerated there. So, amazingly, he takes these hurtful attacks 
> to other forums and other groups of people who don't know him or me. 
>
> This is who I am:
> https://www.noisebridge.net/index.php/User:RyanBagueros
>
> I feel like I should apologize to everybody that this drama is dragged
> out here, but I didn't drag it out here, so I won't. I don't know why
> this wasn't raised last night in person, when Marc and I were both
> there.
>
> I'm not comfortable going to Marc's house for a meeting. We have a
> perfectly good neutral space to meet in. Personally, I find Marc's
> attacks here surprising and inappropriate, and I hope that this is a
> group of adults who kindly ask Marc to keep his internet drama to
> himself. -ryan
>
>
>
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