[Noisebridge-discuss] Printer
jim
jim at well.com
Tue Nov 18 00:21:48 UTC 2008
one element that seems raised is that of "us"
"accepting".
any one of "us" can bring in stuff, which is,
by the fact of its appearance, "accepted".
seems to me good that we collectively keep an
eye on things and as long as we can manage (by
taking overage to ACCRC or other places, including
the dumps), continue "accepting".
an unpleasant alternative is that of creating
the acceptance police. better to keep up a good
janitorial and organizing effort. that and active
hacking and repurposing of the accepted.
On Mon, 2008-11-17 at 16:07 -0800, Mitch Altman wrote:
> Reality check -- please be aware that we have a very small space, and
> stuff piles up very quickly. If folks (such as Jim?) are willing to
> make regular runs to ACCRC and dump unused stuff (if ACCRC is willing
> to take it from us) then that would work out dandy. But if stuff
> starts to pile up, our hacker space will become a crowded heap
> of not-very-usable electonic stuff.
>
> My experience with this comes from one of my volunteer projects as a
> computer refurbisher (under the name of Online Policy Group, another
> 501(c)(3) org) -- being a very small version of ACCRC: collecing
> computers and parts and putting together nice computer systems and
> giving them away for free to non-profit groups and low-income folks.
> I'm very careful about what I accept now-a-days, since back in the
> early days I'd accept pretty much anything that seemed cool, and
> before long I had 2 huge overloaded U-Hauls full of 5000 pounds of
> stuff I couldn't use. ACCRC graciously saved me by accepting the 2
> huge overloaded U-Hauls full without charging me anything (they said
> they normally would have charged me $0.50 per pound -- no way I could
> have afforded that!).
>
> Anyways, I'm all for canabalizing for parts. It's fun. It's cool.
> And it makes for great, free parts. But we need to be conscious of
> keeping our small space useable for the zillions of cool projects that
> we're all working on there.
>
> My 2 (or 3) cents.
>
> Mitch.
>
>
>
>
>
> ______________________________________________________________________
> Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2008 09:33:37 -0800
> From: danielast at gmail.com
> To: jim at well.com
> Subject: Re: [Noisebridge-discuss] Printer
> CC: noisebridge-discuss at lists.noisebridge.net
>
> Hi
>
> I am aware that we dont need more printers but I thought to check
> with you before I get rid of 2 printers.
>
> One is a serial printer multi-function Espson stylus 6600, and
> another is a USB multifunction printer Epson stylus CX5200. I am sure
> that somebody could make them work or hack. They turn on but the
> printing device gives me an error.
>
> Please let me know if anyone would like to play with them or if I
> should take them somewhere else.
>
> D
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 8:35 AM, jim <jim at well.com> wrote:
>
> +1
> deconstructing things can yield an often
> overlooked class of goodies: fittings and
> other mechanical oddments that are impossible
> to find at retail stores.
>
>
>
> On Mon, 2008-11-17 at 08:25 -0800, Jeff Keyzer wrote:
> > I personally think that Noisebridge as a whole needs to
> rethink what I
> > see as a policy of, by default, refusing free stuff.
> >
> > Yes, the space is small.
> >
> > Yes, it is a nuisance if someone brings 30 pounds of toxic
> waste into
> > the space.
> >
> > Yes, some people are going to use us as a dumping ground for
> stuff
> > they don't want (and we don't either).
> >
> > However, telling people that "no, we do not want your stuff"
> leaves a
> > lasting impression that will still be in the back of their
> mind when
> > they stumble upon a 40MHz function generator, or a free
> logic
> > analyzer, or a dual Xeon whatever rack sys in the alley.
> Yes, they
> > may have mostly worthless junk this time, but maybe next
> time they
> > will have something that someone in the space actually
> wants. My fear
> > is that they may choose to donate somewhere else or just
> keep on
> > walking based on their first interaction with us.
> >
> > Also, seemingly worthless donations may actually contain
> useful parts
> > inside. Maybe that Mission-alley-inkjet (you've seen them)
> contains
> > exactly the right 5mm sprocket someone needs? Maybe the
> 20th wall-
> > wart we get is actually a decent switching power supply with
> > reconfigurable voltage jumpers inside and has just the right
> connector
> > to go with that thing you're working on?
> >
> > I think the focus should instead be on how to sell or
> re-donate junk
> > we don't need and how to dispose of the overflow properly
> instead of
> > routinely turning donations away.
> >
> > Tearing down stuff is fun, even if you only end up with a
> couple LEDs
> > and a stepper motor when you're done.
> >
> > Jeff Keyzer
> > jeff at mightyohm.com
> >
> >
> >
> > On Nov 16, 2008, at 10:43 PM, Rubin Abdi wrote:
> >
> > > I really appreciate you finding more printers. The
> question I have
> > > is do we want more printers?
> > >
> > > On Nov 16, 2008, at 8:19 PM, Mitch Altman wrote:
> > >
> > >> I just received an email from a company in LA that wants
> to donate
> > >> 4 network printers to us. I emailed them saying we could
> use them,
> > >> and asked them if they could ship them to us in SF (I'm
> not sure
> > >> they knew we're not in LA area). They said that they are
> all in
> > >> good working condition.
> > >>
> > >> Mitch.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> ------------------
> > >> > From: rubin at starset.net
> > >> > To: noisebridge-discuss at lists.noisebridge.net
> > >> > Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2008 20:15:38 -0800
> > >> > Subject: [Noisebridge-discuss] Printer
> > >> >
> > >> > Rigel and I troubleshooted and got the HP LaserJet
> 2200dt
> > >> operational.
> > >> > It's on the network, information about it and other
> printers we add
> > >> > into the network later on can be found here...
> > >> >
> > >> > https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/Printers
> > >> >
> > >> > The toner provided with the machine was producing
> really blotchy
> > >> nasty
> > >> > printouts. Andy showed me a box containing a different
> used toner,
> > >> > which I've placed into the machine. It still sort of
> sucks, but
> > >> not as
> > >> > bad as the previous toner, which is now sitting behind
> the
> > >> printer if
> > >> > anyone cares to recycle or throw it out.
> > >> >
> > >> > I've gone ahead and created a new section in the
> Network page on
> > >> the
> > >> > wiki which deals with Network devices and services.
> There are
> > >> links to
> > >> > the Printers page and Music page.
> > >> >
> > >> > --
> > >> > Rubin Abdi
> > >> > Rubin at Starset.net
> > >> >
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> > >
> > >
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> > > Rubin at Starset.net
> > >
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