[Noisebridge-discuss] Printer

Shannon Lee shannon at scatter.com
Tue Nov 18 00:23:39 UTC 2008


And bear in mind that we have a universal garbage disposal:  anything left
outside will be sold for crack money in under 9000 milliseconds.

On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 4:21 PM, jim <jim at well.com> wrote:

>
>   one element that seems raised is that of "us"
> "accepting".
>   any one of "us" can bring in stuff, which is,
> by the fact of its appearance, "accepted".
>
>   seems to me good that we collectively keep an
> eye on things and as long as we can manage (by
> taking overage to ACCRC or other places, including
> the dumps), continue "accepting".
>   an unpleasant alternative is that of creating
> the acceptance police. better to keep up a good
> janitorial and organizing effort. that and active
> hacking and repurposing of the accepted.
>
>
> On Mon, 2008-11-17 at 16:07 -0800, Mitch Altman wrote:
> > Reality check -- please be aware that we have a very small space, and
> > stuff piles up very quickly.  If folks (such as Jim?) are willing to
> > make regular runs to ACCRC and dump unused stuff (if ACCRC is willing
> > to take it from us) then that would work out dandy.  But if stuff
> > starts to pile up, our hacker space will become a crowded heap
> > of not-very-usable electonic stuff.
> >
> > My experience with this comes from one of my volunteer projects as a
> > computer refurbisher (under the name of Online Policy Group, another
> > 501(c)(3) org) -- being a very small version of ACCRC:  collecing
> > computers and parts and putting together nice computer systems and
> > giving them away for free to non-profit groups and low-income folks.
> > I'm very careful about what I accept now-a-days, since back in the
> > early days I'd accept pretty much anything that seemed cool, and
> > before long I had 2 huge overloaded U-Hauls full of 5000 pounds of
> > stuff I couldn't use.  ACCRC graciously saved me by accepting the 2
> > huge overloaded U-Hauls full without charging me anything (they said
> > they normally would have charged me $0.50 per pound -- no way I could
> > have afforded that!).
> >
> > Anyways, I'm all for canabalizing for parts.  It's fun.  It's cool.
> > And it makes for great, free parts.  But we need to be conscious of
> > keeping our small space useable for the zillions of cool projects that
> > we're all working on there.
> >
> > My 2 (or 3) cents.
> >
> > Mitch.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ______________________________________________________________________
> > Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2008 09:33:37 -0800
> > From: danielast at gmail.com
> > To: jim at well.com
> > Subject: Re: [Noisebridge-discuss] Printer
> > CC: noisebridge-discuss at lists.noisebridge.net
> >
> > Hi
> >
> >  I am aware that we dont need more printers but I  thought to check
> > with you before I get rid of 2 printers.
> >
> >  One is a serial printer  multi-function Espson stylus 6600, and
> > another is a USB multifunction printer Epson stylus  CX5200. I am sure
> > that somebody could make them work or hack. They turn on but the
> > printing device gives me an error.
> >
> >  Please let me know if anyone would like to play with them or if I
> > should take them somewhere else.
> >
> > D
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 8:35 AM, jim <jim at well.com> wrote:
> >
> >         +1
> >           deconstructing things can yield an often
> >         overlooked class of goodies: fittings and
> >         other mechanical oddments that are impossible
> >         to find at retail stores.
> >
> >
> >
> >         On Mon, 2008-11-17 at 08:25 -0800, Jeff Keyzer wrote:
> >         > I personally think that Noisebridge as a whole needs to
> >         rethink what I
> >         > see as a policy of, by default, refusing free stuff.
> >         >
> >         > Yes, the space is small.
> >         >
> >         > Yes, it is a nuisance if someone brings 30 pounds of toxic
> >         waste into
> >         > the space.
> >         >
> >         > Yes, some people are going to use us as a dumping ground for
> >         stuff
> >         > they don't want (and we don't either).
> >         >
> >         > However, telling people that "no, we do not want your stuff"
> >         leaves a
> >         > lasting impression that will still be in the back of their
> >         mind when
> >         > they stumble upon a 40MHz function generator, or a free
> >         logic
> >         > analyzer, or a dual Xeon whatever rack sys in the alley.
> >         Yes, they
> >         > may have mostly worthless junk this time, but maybe next
> >         time they
> >         > will have something that someone in the space actually
> >         wants.  My fear
> >         > is that they may choose to donate somewhere else or just
> >         keep on
> >         > walking based on their first interaction with us.
> >         >
> >         > Also,  seemingly worthless donations may actually contain
> >         useful parts
> >         > inside.  Maybe that Mission-alley-inkjet (you've seen them)
> >         contains
> >         > exactly the right 5mm sprocket someone needs?  Maybe the
> >         20th wall-
> >         > wart we get is actually a decent switching power supply with
> >         > reconfigurable voltage jumpers inside and has just the right
> >         connector
> >         > to go with that thing you're working on?
> >         >
> >         > I think the focus should instead be on how to sell or
> >         re-donate junk
> >         > we don't need and how to dispose of the overflow properly
> >         instead of
> >         > routinely turning donations away.
> >         >
> >         > Tearing down stuff is fun, even if you only end up with a
> >         couple LEDs
> >         > and a stepper motor when you're done.
> >         >
> >         > Jeff Keyzer
> >         > jeff at mightyohm.com
> >         >
> >         >
> >         >
> >         > On Nov 16, 2008, at 10:43 PM, Rubin Abdi wrote:
> >         >
> >         > > I really appreciate you finding more printers. The
> >         question I have
> >         > > is do we want more printers?
> >         > >
> >         > > On Nov 16, 2008, at 8:19 PM, Mitch Altman wrote:
> >         > >
> >         > >> I just received an email from a company in LA that wants
> >         to donate
> >         > >> 4 network printers to us.  I emailed them saying we could
> >         use them,
> >         > >> and asked them if they could ship them to us in SF (I'm
> >         not sure
> >         > >> they knew we're not in LA area).  They said that they are
> >         all in
> >         > >> good working condition.
> >         > >>
> >         > >> Mitch.
> >         > >>
> >         > >>
> >         > >> ------------------
> >         > >> > From: rubin at starset.net
> >         > >> > To: noisebridge-discuss at lists.noisebridge.net
> >         > >> > Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2008 20:15:38 -0800
> >         > >> > Subject: [Noisebridge-discuss] Printer
> >         > >> >
> >         > >> > Rigel and I troubleshooted and got the HP LaserJet
> >         2200dt
> >         > >> operational.
> >         > >> > It's on the network, information about it and other
> >         printers we add
> >         > >> > into the network later on can be found here...
> >         > >> >
> >         > >> > https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/Printers
> >         > >> >
> >         > >> > The toner provided with the machine was producing
> >         really blotchy
> >         > >> nasty
> >         > >> > printouts. Andy showed me a box containing a different
> >         used toner,
> >         > >> > which I've placed into the machine. It still sort of
> >         sucks, but
> >         > >> not as
> >         > >> > bad as the previous toner, which is now sitting behind
> >         the
> >         > >> printer if
> >         > >> > anyone cares to recycle or throw it out.
> >         > >> >
> >         > >> > I've gone ahead and created a new section in the
> >         Network page on
> >         > >> the
> >         > >> > wiki which deals with Network devices and services.
> >         There are
> >         > >> links to
> >         > >> > the Printers page and Music page.
> >         > >> >
> >         > >> > --
> >         > >> > Rubin Abdi
> >         > >> > Rubin at Starset.net
> >         > >> >
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> >         > >
> >         > >
> >         > > --
> >         > > Rubin Abdi
> >         > > Rubin at Starset.net
> >         > >
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