[Noisebridge-discuss] Printer

[Mitch Altman]

Yup, agreed.
 
--------------------> Subject: RE: [Noisebridge-discuss] Printer> From: jim at well.com> To: maltman23 at hotmail.com> CC: danielast at gmail.com; noisebridge-discuss at lists.noisebridge.net> Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2008 16:21:48 -0800> > > one element that seems raised is that of "us" > "accepting". > any one of "us" can bring in stuff, which is, > by the fact of its appearance, "accepted". > > seems to me good that we collectively keep an > eye on things and as long as we can manage (by > taking overage to ACCRC or other places, including > the dumps), continue "accepting". > an unpleasant alternative is that of creating > the acceptance police. better to keep up a good > janitorial and organizing effort. that and active > hacking and repurposing of the accepted. > > > On Mon, 2008-11-17 at 16:07 -0800, Mitch Altman wrote:> > Reality check -- please be aware that we have a very small space, and> > stuff piles up very quickly. If folks (such as Jim?) are willing to> > make regular runs to ACCRC and dump unused stuff (if ACCRC is willing> > to take it from us) then that would work out dandy. But if stuff> > starts to pile up, our hacker space will become a crowded heap> > of not-very-usable electonic stuff.> > > > My experience with this comes from one of my volunteer projects as a> > computer refurbisher (under the name of Online Policy Group, another> > 501(c)(3) org) -- being a very small version of ACCRC: collecing> > computers and parts and putting together nice computer systems and> > giving them away for free to non-profit groups and low-income folks.> > I'm very careful about what I accept now-a-days, since back in the> > early days I'd accept pretty much anything that seemed cool, and> > before long I had 2 huge overloaded U-Hauls full of 5000 pounds of> > stuff I couldn't use. ACCRC graciously saved me by accepting the 2> > huge overloaded U-Hauls full without charging me anything (they said> > they normally would have charged me $0.50 per pound -- no way I could> > have afforded that!).> > > > Anyways, I'm all for canabalizing for parts. It's fun. It's cool.> > And it makes for great, free parts. But we need to be conscious of> > keeping our small space useable for the zillions of cool projects that> > we're all working on there.> > > > My 2 (or 3) cents.> > > > Mitch.> > > > > > > > > > > > ______________________________________________________________________> > Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2008 09:33:37 -0800> > From: danielast at gmail.com> > To: jim at well.com> > Subject: Re: [Noisebridge-discuss] Printer> > CC: noisebridge-discuss at lists.noisebridge.net> > > > Hi> > > > I am aware that we dont need more printers but I thought to check> > with you before I get rid of 2 printers.> > > > One is a serial printer multi-function Espson stylus 6600, and> > another is a USB multifunction printer Epson stylus CX5200. I am sure> > that somebody could make them work or hack. They turn on but the> > printing device gives me an error.> > > > Please let me know if anyone would like to play with them or if I> > should take them somewhere else.> > > > D> > > > > > On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 8:35 AM, jim <jim at well.com> wrote:> > > > +1> > deconstructing things can yield an often> > overlooked class of goodies: fittings and> > other mechanical oddments that are impossible> > to find at retail stores.> > > > > > > > On Mon, 2008-11-17 at 08:25 -0800, Jeff Keyzer wrote:> > > I personally think that Noisebridge as a whole needs to> > rethink what I> > > see as a policy of, by default, refusing free stuff.> > >> > > Yes, the space is small.> > >> > > Yes, it is a nuisance if someone brings 30 pounds of toxic> > waste into> > > the space.> > >> > > Yes, some people are going to use us as a dumping ground for> > stuff> > > they don't want (and we don't either).> > >> > > However, telling people that "no, we do not want your stuff"> > leaves a> > > lasting impression that will still be in the back of their> > mind when> > > they stumble upon a 40MHz function generator, or a free> > logic> > > analyzer, or a dual Xeon whatever rack sys in the alley.> > Yes, they> > > may have mostly worthless junk this time, but maybe next> > time they> > > will have something that someone in the space actually> > wants. My fear> > > is that they may choose to donate somewhere else or just> > keep on> > > walking based on their first interaction with us.> > >> > > Also, seemingly worthless donations may actually contain> > useful parts> > > inside. Maybe that Mission-alley-inkjet (you've seen them)> > contains> > > exactly the right 5mm sprocket someone needs? Maybe the> > 20th wall-> > > wart we get is actually a decent switching power supply with> > > reconfigurable voltage jumpers inside and has just the right> > connector> > > to go with that thing you're working on?> > >> > > I think the focus should instead be on how to sell or> > re-donate junk> > > we don't need and how to dispose of the overflow properly> > instead of> > > routinely turning donations away.> > >> > > Tearing down stuff is fun, even if you only end up with a> > couple LEDs> > > and a stepper motor when you're done.> > >> > > Jeff Keyzer> > > jeff at mightyohm.com> > >> > >> > >> > > On Nov 16, 2008, at 10:43 PM, Rubin Abdi wrote:> > >> > > > I really appreciate you finding more printers. The> > question I have> > > > is do we want more printers?> > > >> > > > On Nov 16, 2008, at 8:19 PM, Mitch Altman wrote:> > > >> > > >> I just received an email from a company in LA that wants> > to donate> > > >> 4 network printers to us. I emailed them saying we could> > use them,> > > >> and asked them if they could ship them to us in SF (I'm> > not sure> > > >> they knew we're not in LA area). They said that they are> > all in> > > >> good working condition.> > > >>> > > >> Mitch.> > > >>> > > >>> > > >> ------------------> > > >> > From: rubin at starset.net> > > >> > To: noisebridge-discuss at lists.noisebridge.net> > > >> > Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2008 20:15:38 -0800> > > >> > Subject: [Noisebridge-discuss] Printer> > > >> >> > > >> > Rigel and I troubleshooted and got the HP LaserJet> > 2200dt> > > >> operational.> > > >> > It's on the network, information about it and other> > printers we add> > > >> > into the network later on can be found here...> > > >> >> > > >> > https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/Printers> > > >> >> > > >> > The toner provided with the machine was producing> > really blotchy> > > >> nasty> > > >> > printouts. Andy showed me a box containing a different> > used toner,> > > >> > which I've placed into the machine. It still sort of> > sucks, but> > > >> not as> > > >> > bad as the previous toner, which is now sitting behind> > the> > > >> printer if> > > >> > anyone cares to recycle or throw it out.> > > >> >> > > >> > I've gone ahead and created a new section in the> > Network page on> > > >> the> > > >> > wiki which deals with Network devices and services.> > There are> > > >> links to> > > >> > the Printers page and Music page.> > > >> >> > > >> > --> > > >> > Rubin Abdi> > > >> > Rubin at Starset.net> > > >> >> > > >> > _______________________________________________> > > >> > Noisebridge-discuss mailing list> > > >> > Noisebridge-discuss at lists.noisebridge.net> > > >> >> > https://www.noisebridge.net/mailman/listinfo/noisebridge-discuss> > > >>> > > >> > > >> > > > --> > > > Rubin Abdi> > > > Rubin at Starset.net> > > >> > > > _______________________________________________> > > > Noisebridge-discuss mailing list> > > > Noisebridge-discuss at lists.noisebridge.net> > > >> > https://www.noisebridge.net/mailman/listinfo/noisebridge-discuss> > >> > > _______________________________________________> > > Noisebridge-discuss mailing list> > > Noisebridge-discuss at lists.noisebridge.net> > >> > https://www.noisebridge.net/mailman/listinfo/noisebridge-discuss> > >> > > > _______________________________________________> > Noisebridge-discuss mailing list> > Noisebridge-discuss at lists.noisebridge.net> > https://www.noisebridge.net/mailman/listinfo/noisebridge-discuss> > > > > > > > > > -- > > www.danielast.com> 
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