[Noisebridge-discuss] sleepytime funtime!

[skye estes]

this was already brought up in the irc; jay and i both agreed that a. no
harm was done and b. all parties involved will make sure that such a thing
never happens again at the space.

to quinn and meredith: as stated earlier, jay is my good friend. that is the
only reason i was sure he would find it amusing and took the pictures after
the fact. this would have been applicable and harmless at, say, a party or
some other social situation.

this is not indicative of how i feel the space should be treated. i want
everyone to feel comfortable there, and as i don't know most of the people
that hang out there very well, i have no inclination to allow anyone to be
drawn on or anything similar.

this sort of horseplay is only okay between close friends, as far as i'm
concerned, and we will keep it out of the space from here on in order to
avoid any further possibility of making its participants feel uncomfortable,
unsafe, or unwelcome.

.skye.

http://skye.heli.cx


On Sun, Nov 23, 2008 at 6:34 AM, Mikael Vejdemo Johansson
<mik at stanford.edu>wrote:

> On Nov 22, 2008, at 8:42 PM, skye estes wrote:
>
>> had it been someone i didn't know very well or at all, i would agree, and
>> would certainly have stopped it from happening, but jay is my friend, and it
>> was a silly little thing that's being blown out of proportion because it
>> happened at noisebridge.
>>
>> had it happened anywhere else, it would warrant nothing more than a
>> chuckle and it would never be mentioned again. i know that the space is a
>> community, but i don't think that it's the community's place to tell friends
>> how to behave with each other if it doesn't affect anyone else.
>>
>> that said, i did apologize to jay, but again, that's between friends, and
>> the pictures were just meant to provide some momentary amusement. i'll
>> delete the wiki page. this is so over.
>>
>>
> You probably have noticed by now, but the issue is not so much that Jay is
> cool with you doing stuff that gets people upset. It's much more that all of
> a sudden, very many of the Noisebridge people are realizing that at least
> one person apparently views (familiar and) sleeping/napping people at the
> space as being fair game for getting drawn on with markers.
>
> Apparently Shannon, Quinn and mlp really don't want Noisebridge to be that
> kind of place. I'm not sure I want it to either - on the other hand, I have
> been known to have "label body parts" with markers being one of the things I
> start doing when sufficiently sugar high. Only on live subjects though - not
> on sleepers....
>
> Aaaaanyway.
>
> I would feel sad if this led to a state where People I Find Awesome are no
> longer probable to be discovered still asleep at the space when I come in
> weekend late mornings. It would make Noisebridge slightly less awesome, and
> would subject everyone to much more logistics.
>
> It wouldn't seem to be an issue that requires dealing with in the general
> assembly: I for one hope that the strength of emotion around this issue
> indicates to those of us (me included, see labeling body parts above) that
> might be inclined to wield markers what price that inclination would bring,
> and what would constitute and not constitute being excellent to each other.
>
> // Mikael
>
>
>
>  On Sat, Nov 22, 2008 at 8:29 PM, Shannon Lee <shannon at scatter.com> wrote:
>> I can't believe I even have to say this.
>>
>> Standing there and taking a picture and laughing while someone does
>> something you find reprehensible makes you a coward, as well as an
>> accessory.  So yeah, it was you that did it.
>>
>> And just because JSharp is gracious about it doesn't mean it was OK.
>>
>> Seriously, grow up.
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Nov 22, 2008 at 8:18 PM, skye estes <skye.estes at gmail.com> wrote:
>> clarification: i did not do this. i would not have even considered doing
>> this. that is not me in the picture. i just posted the pictures and the
>> link. that said, i found it amusing after the fact.
>>
>> jay was there with me today. i of course showed him the post. he was not
>> nearly as upset as everyone else seems to be. i think a harmless prank is
>> being blown out of proportion.
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Nov 22, 2008 at 8:07 PM, Shannon Lee <shannon at scatter.com> wrote:
>> That was not awesome.
>>
>> This isn't a fucking frat.  Act like a grownup.  And you owe JSharp an
>> apology.
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Nov 22, 2008 at 12:09 PM, C C <crisachow14 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Ooooh.  Totally mean.
>>
>> On Sat, Nov 22, 2008 at 5:27 AM, skye estes <skye.estes at gmail.com> wrote:
>> https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/BootsOn
>>
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